I have been trying to keep up with all that has been going on the last couple of days, and there has been a lot of information. Both good and bad, I will have to show my naivet� here, but If I am running just a small shop with 200 users, and IMail has been working for me all along. I am not running IIS or have the experience to set up all these .net and .asp and items like that. (Small company that has been around for over 50 years because they don�t move to change too fast.) :) Are there any apps out there that have the ease of install and the basic admin functions in a windows environment like IMail?
I am running 8.05 and will continue to run it and use the expertise that I have seen on this forum, but sooner or later I will need to start looking at other solutions. I really don�t have any complaints about Ipswitch since I do not have that much exposure with their tech support or any of their other products. (The small companies that didn�t generate enough profit for Ipswitch but liked their product.) I just hope that they realize a potential loss of customers no matter the size and at least keep IMail as standalone alternative. Ok enough running on, and I am off my soapbox now. Larry Morck Network Admin -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Langston, Cale Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 3:36 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: FW: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :( I've gotten SmarterMail working on my dev box. It's written in .net so the interface is fast, and looks very clear and very user friendly. I'm not using the proprietary engine that came with it, although I did have it installed and played around with it and everything seemed smooth. But after running it through IIS6 there is no way I'll use the built-in engine. As I said above the package can be configured to run on IIS6, if you know anything about what you are doing you can have that up and running in just a few minutes. The migration tool they provide is also very nice. The original one would not see your IMail domains if it was installed on "C:\Imail" but the one they are publishing tomorrow will fix that little glitch. I ran the migration tool on my dev box after mimicking my production environment and it brought 8k users over successfully. No need to change passwords, or make any other configuration changes. As a matter of fact the migration tool is a non-destructive migration tool, so if for some reason you had the need to go back to IMail you can do just that. I'm still putting this thing through it's paces, playing around with the interface but so far everything is nice. I'll have to postpone my load balance until I tomorrow. ________________________________________ From: Langston, Cale Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 2:06 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :( I�m also putting SmarterMail through it�s paces. I just did the migration from IMail v8.13 to SmarterMail v2 with the migration tool they provide and it brought it over successfully. I even used IIS instead of their proprietary engine and everything looks great. I�m going to load test it after I confirm everything is working. Will probably be tomorrow. ________________________________________ From: Ted Galerneau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :( I�ve actually looked into that more since this last post and I think you are right, looks like a snap to make the change. ________________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Langston, Cale Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 5:27 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :( It's not difficult at all. Did you see Merak's migration steps? Not only are you performing a seamless migration, but you're performing an audit also. Audits were horrid to do in IMail. Merak also provides a migration tool. I haven't tried the migration on my test box but I'm interested in how well it runs. http://merakmailserver.com/Products/Mail_Server_Migration_Tool/ ________________________________________ From: Ted Galerneau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 5:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :( Probably what Ipswitch is hoping for is that us with thousands of users will not go through the hassle of migrating to a different server. Guess again Ipswitch, it's not the hard to leave what we have up and going and just add the new ones to a different product ? ________________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 12:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :( This looks interesting as well... http://www.emailarchitect.net/emailserver/�at less than a grand for unlimited users/domains, and an API for extending the product.� Don't know how it stacks up on performance/features, though. � Obviously it will take some time to evaluate options/stability/performance for migration of the mail system.� This may push us to the Postfix route, though. Darin. � � ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Riddle To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 2:14 PM Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :( What the h*** Unlimited seats $9,995 Who are they kidding!� For that price I will happily learn *nix and run an open source app.� I would say that the VAST majority of us do not want the Collaboration or Instant Messaging.� Also, have the "fixed" the anti-spam so that it actually works without being tweaked to death so that you minimize false positives. Sounds like they are trying to recreate MS Exchange.� If I wanted Exchange I would run Exchange. Anybody have experience with: http://www.deerfield.com/products/visnetic-mailserver/ It supports SPF, AntiSpam (with Declude like scoring), AntiVirus, Calandering (Outlook, etc..), Secure Instant Message, Webmail (everything that Ipswitch's new suite does with the addition of SPF and the unlimited user price is a third of the new IMail at only $3,540.00 At 10:46 AM 10/25/2004, you wrote: Lets all call and voice our displeasure. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Gregg > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 10:38 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :( > > It is sad but true...� I have called Ipswitch and they confirmed that there > is no future for a stand-alone version of IMail Server.� You must choose > from one of the suites. > > They are however, receiving many calls and taking note of any complaints or > recommendations.� Please take a moment to call and let them know what you > like/dislike about the new options. > > Until something changes, hold on to your 8.x licenses,� it may be the last > of low-cost IMail solutions. > > Regards, > > David Gregg > dgSoft Internet Services > +1.949.584-1514 > > --- > mxGuard for IMail > Adds anti-spam *and* anti-virus capabilities to your IMail server. > $99 unlimited domains/users.� No service agreements. > > Download and install a free trial version today. > http://www.mxGuard.com/Postmaster/FreeTrial.asp > --- > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christopher Checca" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 10:23 AM > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :( > > > Yes, this is not what I hoped for. > > Christopher Checca > Packard Transport, Inc. > IT Department > 24021 South Municipal Dr > PO Box 380 > Channahon, IL.� 60410 > 815 467 9260 > 815 467 6939 Fax > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.packardtransport.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff > (Lists) > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 11:16 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :( > Importance: High > > I don't believe this. > > Instead of creating an add-on package, the collaboration package is an all > encompassing package, including Imail, Premium Anti-Virus and Killer Webmail > templates. > > This is crazy. > > You are being asked to pay for Imail again along with paying for "Premium > Anit-Virus" even if you already have Imail and do not want the Anti-Virus. > > John Tolmachoff > Engineer/Consultant/Owner > eServices For You > > > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. 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