Not DEERSOFT, but DEERFIELD, ie:
http://www.deerfield.com/products/categories.htm?cid=3



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of x
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 09:51
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team


What is the URL, deersoft is owned by mcafee now I thought.

Bruce Barnes wrote:
> Yes, we are all referring to Deersoft's mail server.  And, again, I remind
> everyone that this is a tactic that is:
>
> 1. More and more commonly being used by large ISPs.
>
> 2. In the case of the Deersoft mail server, an OPTION that is settable on
a
> user-by-user and domain-by domain basis.
>
> If I offended anyone by the harsh sounding response, I apologize.
>
> Even with all of the semi-effectiveness of all the other tools we have,
the
> spammers always seem to stay a step ahead of everyone.
>
> Between pricing that is out of control and spam that's not much better, I
> think we will all agree that this has been an extremely trying week.
>
> Bruce Barnes
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ted Galerneau
> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 23:31
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team
>
>
> Yes, I believe that is what he's talking about. That is one I haven't
looked
> at just yet, hope we may not need to after tomorrow.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of x
> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 9:03 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team
>
> Are you speaking of Deersoft's mail server?
>
> Bruce Barnes wrote:
>
>>If anyone would like to have a test mailbox setup to play with, please
>>let me know and we will send you a username and password off list.
>>
>>PS:  All connections, including web, are SECURE and the e-mail server
>>automatically attempts a secure connection to deliver mail before
>>attempting a non-secure connection.
>>
>>Bruce
>>
>>    -----Original Message-----
>>    *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>    [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *Bruce
>
> Barnes
>
>>    *Sent:* Saturday, October 30, 2004 20:30
>>    *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>    *Subject:* RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch
>>    Executive Team
>>
>>    1.  almost who is using Challenge/Response LOVED the service.  They
>>    have the option, on a user-by-user basis, to turn it off.
>>
>>    IMHO, it is a very GOOD thing and is overwhelmingly liked by the
>>    administrations of the three school systems I talked to.
>>
>>    Addresses can be PRE-LISTED (as many lists are now telling people to
>>    do when they have accessed a web site that will send a message from
>>    a machine and even supplying the e-mail address to do so.
>>
>>    Until all of the in-fighting over SPF, CALLER-ID (microsuck's name
>>    for their re-worked and re-launched version of SPF) is resolved and
>>    universally adopted, the next best thing is CHALLENGE/RESPONSE.
>>
>>
>>     1.  As far as the pricing goes, that includes all updates, all
>>    support and it can be purchased for a lot less, just like IMail,
>>    from 3rd party resellers.
>>
>>     2. They support ANY anti-virus that does dos level scanning,
>>    including Norton Corporate edition.
>>
>>     3.  The new version supports SPF
>>
>>     4. They support calendaring
>>
>>     5.  They support LISTS and will allow the direct import of Imail
>
> lists.
>
>>     6. They support ODBC connectivity.
>>
>>     7. They support unlimited domains and users
>>
>>     8.  They support IM from the web based client without an added
>>    cost,  IM is setup by default to be BY INVITATION ONLY.
>>
>>     9.  They supply a tool to migrate Imail, both users and mail.
>>
>>    10.  They support the ability to archive all incoming and outgoing
>>    messages for anyone who must comply with Sarbaines-Oxley - that's
>>    ALL financial institution, insurance companies, and all publicly
>>    held corporations.  Incidently SmarterMail CANNOT do Sarbaines-Oxley
>>    archiving - I already talked to their sales department.
>>
>>    11. The e-mail server can automatically back up all of the e-mail
>>    and users on a regular schedule.
>>
>>    12.  ANY feature can be DISABLED on a USER-BY-USER or
>>    DOMAIN-BY-DOMAIN basis.
>>
>>    I'll gladly pay a little more for a customer service department that
>>    actually answers their phones and responds in less than 10 minutes
>>    with a solution and who will stay on the phone with you, like Dell
>>    (and like Compaq used to before they off-shored everything to India
>>    with a bunch of people who have no technical background and don't
>>    know the names or anything about any of their own certified techs)
>>    for several hours at a time until a problem is resolved.
>>
>>    Yes, gentlemen and women, if we want 1st class tech support that is
>>    maintained in the United States of America then we have to be
>>    willing to PAY for it.  Just like we are available to our customers
>>    24 hours a day, 7 days a week and are willing to bend over backwards
>>    to resolve a problem, so are these people.  And this is not
>>    conjecture, but from the mouths of people who have actually used the
>>    product and had to deal with the support people.
>>
>>    Bruce Barnes
>>    ChicagoNetTech Inc
>>
>>        -----Original Message-----
>>        *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>        [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *John
>>        Tolmachoff (Lists)
>>        *Sent:* Saturday, October 30, 2004 18:48
>>        *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>        *Subject:* RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the
>>        Ipswitch Executive Team
>>
>>        Bruce wrote:
>>
>>        /In addition to everything we've looking for, it auto-verifies
>>        any incoming e-mail message the first time a message is received
>>        from a new e-mail address and forces the sender to click on a
>>        link in the verification message to validate they are a person
>>        and not a machine./
>>
>>        //
>>
>>        /To see an example, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and the server will send a verify
>>        message back./
>>
>>
>>
>>        Bad server, bad server. Search the archives for
>>        Challenge/Response. Bad!
>>
>>
>>
>>        **John Tolmachoff**
>>
>>        **Engineer/Consultant/Owner**
>>
>>        **eServices For You**
>>
>>
>>
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