I'm with Darius.  System admin, Metadata configuration, Data management.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Darius Jazayeri
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 12:18 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OPENMRS-IMPLEMENTERS] Admin Interface categorization

I think that's the wrong way to approach it. I think that depending on the type 
of user you are, or the task you're doing, you'll approach the page thinking 
either "I want to configure my system", or else "I'm dealing with data that has 
been entered".

But I'd be much more interested in having some actual implementers give their 
opinions. Burke and I talk a lot, but we're not the domain experts here. :-)

-Darius

On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Burke Mamlin 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I'm not so convinced that the division of metadata & data needs to be so 
strictly enforced in the UI.  FWIW, I would find it natural to go to a "Person" 
section of the administration screen to both manage person records & manage 
settings affecting persons (like person attributes), since – at least in my 
mind – managing person records, merging persons, configuring person attributes, 
etc. are all about administrating persons.  I wouldn't expect them all on the 
same screen… maybe under different tabs or pages within that admin section.  
Anyway...

Vlad, is this the type of layout you're considering?
http://jsfiddle.net/burke/yWPbg/embedded/result/

-Burke

On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Darius Jazayeri 
<[email protected]<mailto:djazayeri%[email protected]>> wrote:
Re: CONTENT MANAGEMENT vs DATA MANAGEMENT, my main point is that "Manage 
Encounter Types" and "Manage Encounters" should go in different places. The 
former is about managing metadata or system configuration. The latter is DATA 
MANAGEMENT.

(So, yes, managing the definitions of Person Attribute Types should definitely 
go in a different section from managing Persons.)

-Darius

On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Burke Mamlin 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Darius Jazayeri 
<[email protected]<mailto:djazayeri%[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Vlad,

A few comments:

1. I would want another high-level category for DATA MANAGEMENT. (This would 
include managing Patient, Person, Encounter, Observation, and Order.) Fixing 
data entry errors is distinct from configuring the lists of locations, 
encounter types, etc. And I think I'd want a high-level category for ANALYSIS & 
REPORTING.

I thought CONTENT MANAGEMENT was data management.  Do we really need to split 
up managing persons & managing person attributes into separate sections?

2. I don't love the distinction between CONTENT MANAGER and CONCEPT MANAGER. 
Maybe just changing a name would fix it, but it doesn't feel quite natural for 
me to have Forms go under CONCEPT rather than CONTENT. Maybe rename it to 
CONCEPTS & FORMS. :-)

How about SYSTEM ADMIN → ADMINISTRATION and CONCEPT MANAGEMENT → CONFIGURATION?

3. Add-on modules should not all go in their own special place. Rather they 
should be encourages to plug into the relevant high-level categories. E.g. all 
get grouped in a special place. The right approach is that modules should be 
able to plug into the relevant high-level categories. (For example a module 
might plug into both CONTENT MANAGEMENT and DATA MANAGEMENT.) Obviously most 
modules won't naturally do this out of the box. We'll need to tell them how to 
do so.

Agreed, but we will still want a "Modules" entry in the ADMINISTRATION section 
under which to enable, disable, install, and remove modules.

-Burke


-Darius
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Vlad Vega 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi All,

I've been slowely developing a menu system and wanted to come to some
initial conclusions in the what goes where problem.

Please take a look and see if you believe these assignments fit.

Key:
ALL CAPS: Super Category
Under small caps: Sub categories of links and modules.

SYSTEM ADMIN
Users
HL7 Messages
Maintenance
Modules
Logic Module
MRN Generator
HTML Form Entry
Reports
Analysis and Reporting

CONCEPT MANAGER
Programs
Concepts
Forms
Xforms
Report Definitions

CONTENT MANAGER
Patients
Persons
Encounters
Locations
Observations
Orders
Scheduler
From Entry

Also, I would like to put any module that the user downloads into a system
admin - designated Subcategory (so that those modules will show up in a
separate grouping under a subcategory in addition to the links.)

Vlad

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