On 30/06/07, Donal McMullan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Shawn Walker wrote:
> On 30/06/07, Donal McMullan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Shawn Walker wrote:
>>
>> > More important than giving users fully working hardware out of the
>> > box? That doesn't seem reasonable. Users don't care about "open
>> > source," they care about supported, working hardware.
>>
>> Many users care about both.
>
> I would ask you to prove that. Most of the world runs Windows, OS X,
> etc., so obviously they don't care that much about open source. They
> just care about what works.
So... Windows users care about "what works"?
People can and do care about *both* vectors. You manage to work yourself
up into a froth about free software:
It isn't about free software; it is about a certain view some communities have.
If it was about free software I never would have contributed to the
project I have or spent the amount of time I have in this community or
others.
> "Everything must be free at all costs!" seems to be their mantra. It
> is no wonder that we do not see more ISV development in the areas of
> games and business applications. The GNU/Linux world is a licensing
> minefield waiting to happen...
Hmm - did he post this to the right list? :)
Yes.
> It is a world where backwards compatibility is tossed to the wayside,
> where the solution to fixing things is to upgrade half the system,
> without any concept of major or minor binding, and where documentation
> is the last thing done years after it was needed.
It's ironic that after ripping on Linux and free software for I don't
know how long, what you really want is to clone Ubuntu and stick a
Solaris kernel under the hood.
I'm not ripping on free software, software licensed under the CDDL is
classified as free software, and as such it would make no sense for me
to do so.
If all I wanted was Ubuntu, I'd just use that. I am merely using
Ubuntu as an example of an *approach* or *perspective* that has been
successful. No offense to the Nexenta folks, but if I wanted Ubuntu
with a Solaris kernel, I'd just use Nexenta.
And the punchline is that Linux's agile approach is decimating UNIX.
That's debateable. It is also important note that the "Linux approach"
is not the same as the "agile software development model" recently
popularised. Let's avoid buzzwords :)
I'm just trolling, and really I should learn to shut up. I don't think
we disagree about anything fundamental. There's a balance to be struck
somewhere between the most-free and the most-usable distro and we'd each
pick different points along that line. No big deal.
That is my main point. There has to be balance. What "works me into a
froth" or upsets me is when people hold perceived freedoms as more
important than what an OS is for: providing a way to use a computer
which is nothing more than a tool to be used by humanity.
--
Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/
"Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not
tried it. " --Donald Knuth
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