Gurcharan ji. I think we are inadvertently mixing wild grapes and burr
mallow.
Regards.




On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:

>  I think the wild grapes are turning more complicated than we thought. The
> leaves seem to be variable in all species. What we will have to be alert
> with U. repanda (mericarp smooth, unarmed; epicalyx lobes long acuminate
> separated by rounded sinuses; calyx persistent; flowers ± aggregated into
> terminal inflorescences), U. lobata (Mericarps armed with hooked bristles,
> epicalyx lanceolate-triangular, 4-7 mm long, appressed to mericarps), U.
> sinuata (Mericarps armed with hooked bristles, epicalyx linear-lanceolate,
> reflexed, 3-4 mm long). Flora of China recognise 5 varieties of U. urena
> from their area.
>
>
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College
> University of Delhi, Delhi
> India
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
> *To:* Neil Soares <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* Rani Bhagat <[email protected]> ; Gurcharan Singh<[email protected]>; 
> indian
> tree pix <[email protected]> ; shubhada 
> nikharge<[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:48 PM
>   *Subject:* Re: [indiantreepix:17681] Re: [indiantreepix:/] can it be
> wild grapes- Ampelocisscus latifolia ?
>
> Thanks, Rani ji, Neil ji, Singh ji, Santhosh & Madhuri ji,
> My photos taken on 18/10/08 (*Urena lobata*) with flowering pictures &
> similar leaves in Narshapur forest, AP.
>   2009/9/5 Neil Soares <[email protected]>
>
>>     Hi,
>>   Sorry. Sending the photograph.
>>                  Regards,
>>                    Neil Soares.
>>
>> --- On *Sat, 9/5/09, Neil Soares <[email protected]>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Neil Soares <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [indiantreepix:17681] Re: [indiantreepix:/] can it be wild
>> grapes- Ampelocisscus latifolia ?
>> To: "Rani Bhagat" <[email protected]>, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>,
>> "Gurcharan Singh" <[email protected]>
>> Cc: "indian tree pix" <[email protected]>, "shubhada
>> nikharge" <[email protected]>
>> Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 6:28 PM
>>
>>
>>     Hi Prof. Singh,
>>       Sending you a photograph of the Common Purple Mallow [Urena lobata].
>>                                Regards,
>>                                  Neil Soares.
>>
>> --- On *Sat, 9/5/09, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [indiantreepix:17675] Re: [indiantreepix:/] can it be wild
>> grapes- Ampelocisscus latifolia ?
>> To: "Neil Soares" <[email protected]>, "Rani Bhagat" <
>> [email protected]>, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>
>> Cc: "indian tree pix" <[email protected]>, "shubhada
>> nikharge" <[email protected]>
>> Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 5:34 PM
>>
>>   I have not seen Urena with such deep lobes, but am sending in separate
>> post what I consider as Urena lobata.
>>
>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>> Associate Professor
>> SGTB Khalsa College
>> University of Delhi, Delhi
>> India
>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45
>>
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Neil 
>> Soares<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>> *To:* Rani 
>> Bhagat<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>; 
>> J.M.
>> Garg <http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>> *Cc:* indian tree 
>> pix<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>;
>>  shubhada
>> nikharge<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 05, 2009 4:23 PM
>> *Subject:* [indiantreepix:17666] Re: [indiantreepix:/] can it be wild
>> grapes- Ampelocisscus latifolia ?
>>
>>     Hi Mr.Garg,
>>    It is most likely the Common Purple Mallow [Urena lobata]. It should be
>> flowering soon.
>>                           Regards,
>>                             Neil.
>>
>> --- On *Sat, 9/5/09, J.M. Garg 
>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>> >* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: J.M. Garg 
>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>> >
>> Subject: [indiantreepix:17658] Re: [indiantreepix:/] can it be wild
>> grapes- Ampelocisscus latifolia ?
>> To: "Rani Bhagat" 
>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>> >
>> Cc: "Neil Soares" 
>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>>,
>> "indian tree pix" 
>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>>,
>> "shubhada nikharge" 
>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>> >
>> Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 2:51 PM
>>
>>   Is my attachment the same (i.e. *Ampelocissus latifolia*), though I
>> doubt myself?
>>
>>   2009/8/19 Rani Bhagat 
>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>> >
>>
>>>  Ya it is Ampelocissus latifolia-Vitaceae
>>>
>>>   On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Neil Soares 
>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>     Affirmitive Shubhada.
>>>>                    Regards,
>>>>                      Neil.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On *Tue, 8/18/09, shubhada nikharge 
>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>>> >* wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: shubhada nikharge 
>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>>> >
>>>> Subject: [indiantreepix:/] can it be wild grapes- Ampelocisscus
>>>> latifolia ?
>>>> To: "indian tree pix" 
>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>>> >
>>>> Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 8:09 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Hi.
>>>> climber for identification.
>>>> Can it be Wild grapes ( Ampelocisscus latifolia ) ?
>>>> place : Conservation Education Centre
>>>> date: 1st July 2009.
>>>>
>>>>
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