Yes Dinesh ji, I realise, it may mix up things.

Urena discussion emerged out of this thread, and  incidently all photographs 
belong to Urena, as the concensus says. I had posted mine separately to 
maintain identity.


Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College
University of Delhi, Delhi
India
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dinesh Valke 
  To: Gurcharan Singh 
  Cc: J.M. Garg ; Neil Soares ; Rani Bhagat ; indian tree pix ; shubhada 
nikharge 
  Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [indiantreepix:17695] Re: [indiantreepix:/] can it be wild 
grapes- Ampelocisscus latifolia ?


  Gurcharan ji. I think we are inadvertently mixing wild grapes and burr mallow.
  Regards.



   
  On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:

    I think the wild grapes are turning more complicated than we thought. The 
leaves seem to be variable in all species. What we will have to be alert with 
U. repanda (mericarp smooth, unarmed; epicalyx lobes long acuminate separated 
by rounded sinuses; calyx persistent; flowers ± aggregated into terminal 
inflorescences), U. lobata (Mericarps armed with hooked bristles, epicalyx 
lanceolate-triangular, 4-7 mm long, appressed to mericarps), U. sinuata 
(Mericarps armed with hooked bristles, epicalyx linear-lanceolate, reflexed, 
3-4 mm long). Flora of China recognise 5 varieties of U. urena from their area.
        

    Dr. Gurcharan Singh
    Associate Professor
    SGTB Khalsa College
    University of Delhi, Delhi
    India
    http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: J.M. Garg 
      To: Neil Soares 
      Cc: Rani Bhagat ; Gurcharan Singh ; indian tree pix ; shubhada nikharge 
      Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:48 PM
      Subject: Re: [indiantreepix:17681] Re: [indiantreepix:/] can it be wild 
grapes- Ampelocisscus latifolia ?


      Thanks, Rani ji, Neil ji, Singh ji, Santhosh & Madhuri ji,
      My photos taken on 18/10/08 (Urena lobata) with flowering pictures & 
similar leaves in Narshapur forest, AP.  

      2009/9/5 Neil Soares <[email protected]>

              Hi,
                Sorry. Sending the photograph.
                               Regards,
                                 Neil Soares.

              --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Neil Soares <[email protected]> wrote:


                From: Neil Soares <[email protected]>
                Subject: [indiantreepix:17681] Re: [indiantreepix:/] can it be 
wild grapes- Ampelocisscus latifolia ?
                To: "Rani Bhagat" <[email protected]>, "J.M. Garg" 
<[email protected]>, "Gurcharan Singh" <[email protected]> 

                Cc: "indian tree pix" <[email protected]>, 
"shubhada nikharge" <[email protected]>

                Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 6:28 PM 



                      Hi Prof. Singh,
                            Sending you a photograph of the Common Purple 
Mallow [Urena lobata].
                                                     Regards,
                                                       Neil Soares.

                      --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> 
wrote:


                        From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
                        Subject: [indiantreepix:17675] Re: [indiantreepix:/] 
can it be wild grapes- Ampelocisscus latifolia ?
                        To: "Neil Soares" <[email protected]>, "Rani 
Bhagat" <[email protected]>, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>
                        Cc: "indian tree pix" <[email protected]>, 
"shubhada nikharge" <[email protected]>
                        Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 5:34 PM


                        I have not seen Urena with such deep lobes, but am 
sending in separate post what I consider as Urena lobata.

                        Dr. Gurcharan Singh
                        Associate Professor
                        SGTB Khalsa College
                        University of Delhi, Delhi
                        India
                        http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45
                          ----- Original Message ----- 
                          From: Neil Soares 
                          To: Rani Bhagat ; J.M. Garg 
                          Cc: indian tree pix ; shubhada nikharge 
                          Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 4:23 PM
                          Subject: [indiantreepix:17666] Re: [indiantreepix:/] 
can it be wild grapes- Ampelocisscus latifolia ?


                                Hi Mr.Garg,
                                   It is most likely the Common Purple Mallow 
[Urena lobata]. It should be flowering soon.
                                                          Regards,
                                                            Neil.

                                --- On Sat, 9/5/09, J.M. Garg 
<[email protected]> wrote:


                                From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
                                Subject: [indiantreepix:17658] Re: 
[indiantreepix:/] can it be wild grapes- Ampelocisscus latifolia ?
                                To: "Rani Bhagat" <[email protected]>
                                Cc: "Neil Soares" <[email protected]>, 
"indian tree pix" <[email protected]>, "shubhada nikharge" 
<[email protected]>
                                Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 2:51 PM


                                Is my attachment the same (i.e. Ampelocissus 
latifolia), though I doubt myself?


                                2009/8/19 Rani Bhagat <[email protected]>

                                Ya it is Ampelocissus latifolia-Vitaceae


                                On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Neil Soares 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                                Affirmitive Shubhada.
                                                   Regards,
                                                     Neil.
                                                 

                                --- On Tue, 8/18/09, shubhada nikharge 
<[email protected]> wrote:


                                From: shubhada nikharge 
<[email protected]>
                                Subject: [indiantreepix:/] can it be wild 
grapes- Ampelocisscus latifolia ?
                                To: "indian tree pix" 
<[email protected]>
                                Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 8:09 PM 



                                Hi.
                                climber for identification.
                                Can it be Wild grapes ( Ampelocisscus latifolia 
) ?
                                place : Conservation Education Centre
                                date: 1st July 2009.





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