Hi, Sorry for delay in reply The flower size is aprox. 2 inches Thanks On 9/27/09, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: > > Good to see this lively discussion! > The original reference for Ipomoe clarkei, Flora of British India, > describes I. clarkei as having ovate-lanceshaped leaves. Leaves are > deeply heart-shaped at the base, with a long pointed tip. It does not > say anything at all about the leaves being 3-lobed. Also the flowers > are described as being more than 1 inch in size, larger than Ipomoea > obscura flowers, which many people would have seen: > > http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Obscure%20Morning%20Glory.html > (I sometimes get very irritated with botanists for not mentioning a > simple thing like the color of the flower!) > Now I am sure Niel's flowers are less than 2 cm (Neil, do let me > know if it is otherwise). Also, the leaves are sometimes entire-heart- > shaped and sometimes 3-lobed. Which makes me strongly believe it to be > Ipomoea triloba. Maybe foreigners (exotics) have infilitrated Neil's > property without him realizing it! ;-) > Coming to Pravin's flower, the leaves seem to agree with the > description if I. clarkei quite well, but the flowers *appear to be* > large. Pravin, do you remember the approximate size of the flowers? > The sepals of I. clarkei are supposed to be narrow, linear - a bud in > Pravin's pic does show narrow linear sepals. > I am very keen to know the identity of Pravin's flower - if it is > indeed an Ipomoea, it would be the only yellow Ipomoea I know! > Best wishes > - Tabish > > On Sep 27, 12:15 pm, Satish Phadke <[email protected]> wrote: >> Flowers of Ipomoea from diff. species may look similar. >> I think what Neil is trying to stress is because of the leaf pattern in >> his >> plant which is in favour of *I. clarkei*. I think we request Neil to send >> some more pictures of the leaves esp. depicting petiole, bract if any etc. >> As per Mah BSI Flora(Sorry I don,t have Almeida's) >> the plant of *I clarkei* are described as below >> No mention of colour of flower ! >> Leaves 5-9bye4-6 cm, broadly ovate, finely acuminate, hairy on both >> surfaces, base deeply cordate with rounded lobes; petiole 2.5 to6 cm. >> Inflorescence 1-3 flowered cyme.Peduncle 2-4cm long, slender. Bracts >> minute, >> lanceolate, acute, sparsely hairy and ciliate. Corolla 3-4 cm long. >> Capsule >> 1.5 cm long ovoid. >> Waiting for opinions ..... >> Satish Phadke >> BTW attaching my picture of *I. triloba *clicked today in another mail. >> >> 2009/9/27 Prashant awale <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> > Dear Dinesh, >> > Have a look at following Davesgarden link. >> >> >http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/171509/ >> >> > (This Ipomoea is very common and i could see many at the outskirts of >> > Mumbai.) >> > best wishes >> > Prashant >> >> > On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Dinesh Valke >> > <[email protected]>wrote: >> >> >> Neil ji, Prashant, a pictorial reference I referred is >> >>http://www.exot-nutz-zier.de/impressionen_convolvulaceae_i1.htm >> >> Regards. >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Neil Soares >> >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >> >>> Hi Prashant, >> >>> The plant featured in this link does not match the description of >> >>> Ipomea triloba given either in Ingalhalikar's or Dr. Almeida's book. >> >>> Regards, >> >>> Neil. >> >> >>> --- On *Sat, 9/26/09, Prashant awale <[email protected]>* wrote: >> >> >>> From: Prashant awale <[email protected]> >> >>> Subject: Re: [indiantreepix:19556] Re: Ipomoea clarkei >> >>> To: "Neil Soares" <[email protected]> >> >>> Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 11:13 PM >> >> >>> Dear Neil ji, >> >> >>> I had seen them many in and around Mumbai and even during few treks in >> >>> Panvel region. My ID was based on following "daves garden" link... >> >>>http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/171509/ >> >> >>> I think, probably Dinesh also must have referred the same link.. >> >> >>> Thanks & best wishes >> >> >>> Prashant >> >> >>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Neil Soares >> >>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> >>> > wrote: >> >> >>>> Thanks Prashant. Ipomea triloba is a naturalised exotic plant. >> >>>> Generally don't have exotic plants on my property. >> >>>> Regards, >> >>>> Neil Soares. >> >> >>>> --- On *Sat, 9/26/09, Prashant awale >> >>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> >>>> >* wrote: >> >> >>>> From: Prashant awale >> >>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> >> >>>> Subject: [indiantreepix:19556] Re: Ipomoea clarkei >> >>>> To: "Neil Soares" >> >>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> >> >>>> Cc: "Dinesh Valke" >> >>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>>, >> >>>> "indiantreepix" >> >>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantree...@googlegrou...>>, >> >>>> "Pravin Kawale" >> >>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> >> >>>> Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 10:49 PM >> >> >>>> Dear Neil ji, >> >>>> I am also having few photographs of the pink flower which u had >> >>>> photographed. I thought it is Ipomoea triloba? >> >>>> best wishes >> >>>> Prashant >> >> >>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Neil Soares >> >>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> >>>> > wrote: >> >> >>>>> Hi Dinesh, >> >>>>> Took this photograph last week. Figure this is also Ipomea >> >>>>> clarkei. >> >>>>> Regards, >> >>>>> Neil >> >> >>>>> --- On *Sat, 9/26/09, Dinesh Valke >> >>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> >>>>> >* wrote: >> >> >>>>> From: Dinesh Valke >> >>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> >> >>>>> Subject: [indiantreepix:19541] Re: Ipomoea clarkei >> >>>>> To: "Neil Soares" >> >>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> >> >>>>> Cc: "indiantreepix" >> >>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantree...@googlegrou...>>, >> >>>>> "Pravin Kawale" >> >>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> >> >>>>> Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 8:18 PM >> >> >>>>> ... Neil ji, can we have more views? >> >>>>> Regards. >> >> >>>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Neil Soares >> >>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> >>>>> > wrote: >> >> >>>>>> Hi Pravin, >> >>>>>> Beautiful photographs!!! Presume your identification is based on >> >>>>>> Ingalhalikar's Vol. 2. >> >>>>>> Sending you my photograph identified as Ipomea clarkei by >> >>>>>> Dr.Almeida >> >>>>>> at my property at Shahapur. >> >>>>>> Hopefully someone will be able to throw some light us on this >> >>>>>> issue. >> >>>>>> With regards, >> >>>>>> Neil Soares. >> >> >>>>>> --- On *Sat, 9/26/09, Pravin Kawale >> >>>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> >>>>>> >* wrote: >> >> >>>>>> From: Pravin Kawale >> >>>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> >> >>>>>> Subject: [indiantreepix:19526] Ipomoea clarkei >> >>>>>> To: "indiantreepix" >> >>>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantree...@googlegrou...> >> >> >>>>>> Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 11:05 AM >> >> >>>>>> Hi, >> >>>>>> Flowers of Ipomoea clarkei >> >>>>>> Marathi name Sonpungali >> >>>>>> At Kanakeshwar >> >>>>>> 26/09/2009 >> >>>>>> Thanks >> >> >>>>>> DSC06613.JPG >> >>>>>> DSC06611.JPG >> >>>>>> DSC06618.JPG >> >> >>>>>> These pictures were sent with Picasa, from Google. >> >>>>>> Try it out here:http://picasa.google.com/ >> >> -- >> >> http:// satishphadke.blogspot.com > > >
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