Many thanks Garg ji for resurfacing this discussion. Thank you very much Radha for ascertaining the ID. Regards. Dinesh
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 5:55 PM, radha veach <radhave...@gmail.com> wrote: > to me it's Pluchea ovalis > > regards > Radha > > > On 22 June 2013 16:25, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >> >> Some earlier relevant feedback: >> >> Dineshji, this seems P. lanceolata looking at entire and lanceolate >> leaves. P. ovalis should have obovate and serrate leaves. Besides the >> latter is a tall densely branched shrub 1-2 m tall. Pls check. Regards, >> Shrikant >> >> Many thanks Shrikant ji for validating the ID. >> >> This plant is also found in Thane and Mumbai - near mangroves. >> >> The plant in this post grows about 2 m tall gregariously on large stream >> bed at Karnala Bird Sanctuary. >> The leaf in this post is oval or elliptic (acute at both ends) as well as >> tomentose - just as the epithets (*ovalis* or *tomentosa*) would suggest. >> On a close look, the margin is not truly entire; it is bluntly serrate or >> dentate (not sure exactly what it should be termed). >> >> But if the description says *P. ovalis* must be obovate, then this plant >> ID may need to reconsidered. >> >> This ID of *P. ovalis* (syn. *P. tomentosa*) was confirmed by Satish >> (Pardeshi) ji in one of my earlier >> post<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/1mDRWmO0rTc/yUvaz3t1TIkJ> >> . >> Would like to have Satish (Pardeshi) ji's comment. >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> Thanks for sharing Dinesh Ji, I am uploading in a separate mail the plant >> I consider to be Pluchea lanceolata, with entire margins..hope that helps >> to resolve... >> >> I think P. ovalis. Besides leaf shape in second photograph, the dentate >> leaf margin, the crucial difference is auricled leaf base, which can be >> seen. >> >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> >> Many thanks Gurcharan ji for validating this ID. >> Nidhan ji, looking forward for upload of your *Pluchea ovalis*; also >> eager to find upload of *Pluchea lanceolata* during this fortnight. >> Regards. >> >> Dinesh >> >> Dear Dr.Gurcharsinghji, I have been calling the attached plant with 5-8 >> cm long, auricled and coarsely dentate leaves as P. ovalis. Pls ID this >> plant that is strongly aromatic. Regards, Shrikant >> >> Thanks Shrikant ji for this upload. >> Perhaps we may have clear picture at the end of this episode. >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> >> Dear Dr Gurcharansinghji, >> As per T. Cooke flora outer involucral bracts >> 1. ovate, acute is P. tomentosa (ovalis) >> 2. oblong, obtuse is P. lanceolata >> You can see these features in Dr. Rawat's post of P. lanceolata and my >> post of P. ovalis >> Hope this resolves ID of 2 Plucheas. Regards Shrikant >> >> Dear friends, >> Recent Pluchea lanceolata posts by ... >> Gurcharan ji: Pluchea lanceolata from >> Delhi-GS11<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/dddADH8wkMk/e-Z6aZpNaKcJ>... >> Rawat ji: Pluchea lanceolata from >> Uttarakhand_DSR_8<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/WsCeQk8iAFA/l6enVrAXMIUJ> >> Nidhan ji:Pluchea lanceolata from Panipat- NS >> 05<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/YxFCKlBRtpA/K6aVsfS2SBoJ> >> All of them show aspects of plants to be consistent, especially the >> leaves - entire margin, sessile. >> >> With as many as 8 species of Pluchea distributed in India (Gurcharan ji's >> post<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/dddADH8wkMk/e-Z6aZpNaKcJ>giving >> keys to 7 species of >> *Pluchea* in India), I request you all to reconsider the ID of my posted >> plant. >> >> I am showing another photo, and two cropped portions of it for a closer >> look; hopefully the ID gets resolved. >> Though the sighting is another location - Vaghbil, Thane on 14 JAN 11, am >> confident that the plant is definitely same. >> >> I get a feeling that the leaf margin of my posted plant is serrate (or >> sub-serrate - not sure of terminology) and most possibly is amplexicaule. >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> ... and I forgot to stress on this point: the plant stands about 1.5 - 2 >> m tall, often in gregarious colonies. >> Regards. >> >> Dinesh >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> >> Date: 3 June 2013 14:04 >> Subject: [efloraofindia:156483] Asteraceae Week (Part II - Discoid heads) >> :: Pluchea ovalis at Karnala Bird Sanctuary :: 30 MAY 09 :: DV21 >> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >> >> >> Asteraceae Week (Part II - Discoid heads) >> aster, daisy, or sunflower family >> *Pluchea ovalis* (Pers.) DC. >> *PLOO-sha* -- named for Abbé Noel-Antoine Pluche, French naturalist >> ... Dave's >> Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3DPluchea&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdSiV36GTFETL-E2-dQVijzbcDhHA> >> *oh-VAY-liss* -- oval ... Dave's >> Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3Dovalis&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcHWZPOa3ZtKbOPX_wmNL4JcL_kDw> >> *toh-men-TOH-suh* -- covered with fine, matted hairs ... Dave's >> Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3Dtomentosa&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzeYWjhRWObnbyLPoK9bvJWjH4Wkcg> >> >> *commonly known as*: woolly camphor-weed • *Sanskrit*: कलम्बिका >> kalambika, सिंहलतिक्त sinhalatikta • *Tamil*: கொழும்பு kolumpu, >> கொழும்புவேர் kolumpu-ver • *Telugu*: kalamba >> >> *Distribution*: West Africa, Arabian peninsula, Pakistan, India >> >> *References*: Flowers of >> India<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FWoolly%2520Camphor-Weed.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdq_ypU3n93L0v80lvfV-7NzqbxQw>• >> eFlora<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.efloras.org%2Fflorataxon.aspx%3Fflora_id%3D5%26taxon_id%3D242426917&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzc9U97iEdkA9ClkPOHpaPbViYoSwA>• >> ENVIS >> - >> FRLHT<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fenvis.frlht.org.in%2Fbotanical_search.php%3Ftxtbtname%3DPluchea%2Btomentosa%26gesp%3D1238%257CPluchea%2Btomentosa%2BDC.&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdPOdjHKj3mxlu1jAk-AD4U_08fYw>• >> Floristic >> Survey of Institute of >> Science<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fiscmumbai.maharashtra.gov.in%2Ffloristic%2520survey.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcUoz-zDUNsQiwoI1xlFNbeldxUlw> >> at Karnala Bird Sanctuary between 30 MAY 09 and 14 JAN 11 >> >> [image: Pluchea >> ovalis]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F5354691786%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcsy4Mbs7qiVsYnpUC7utEAsKnVwQ> >> >> [image: Kolumpu-ver (Tamil: >> கொழும்புவேர்)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F4486218895%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdZLjzfFi-0GU5mAWotL52y7g948Q> >> >> [image: Kalambika (Sanskrit: कलम्बिका >> kalambika)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F3578555708%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfnLpm0seppm1xZ6I7htJpHnTwL0Q> >> >> [image: Kalamba (in >> Telugu)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F3578567064%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfewTCS2OQVIbLyt9srwCsMS5RDQg> >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "efloraofindia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to indiantreepix@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species*& >> eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged >> alphabetically & place-wise): >> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. 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