Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. Some earlier relevant feedback:
Dineshji, this seems P. lanceolata looking at entire and lanceolate leaves. P. ovalis should have obovate and serrate leaves. Besides the latter is a tall densely branched shrub 1-2 m tall. Pls check. Regards, Shrikant Many thanks Shrikant ji for validating the ID. This plant is also found in Thane and Mumbai - near mangroves. The plant in this post grows about 2 m tall gregariously on large stream bed at Karnala Bird Sanctuary. The leaf in this post is oval or elliptic (acute at both ends) as well as tomentose - just as the epithets (*ovalis* or *tomentosa*) would suggest. On a close look, the margin is not truly entire; it is bluntly serrate or dentate (not sure exactly what it should be termed). But if the description says *P. ovalis* must be obovate, then this plant ID may need to reconsidered. This ID of *P. ovalis* (syn. *P. tomentosa*) was confirmed by Satish (Pardeshi) ji in one of my earlier post<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/1mDRWmO0rTc/yUvaz3t1TIkJ> . Would like to have Satish (Pardeshi) ji's comment. Regards. Dinesh Thanks for sharing Dinesh Ji, I am uploading in a separate mail the plant I consider to be Pluchea lanceolata, with entire margins..hope that helps to resolve... I think P. ovalis. Besides leaf shape in second photograph, the dentate leaf margin, the crucial difference is auricled leaf base, which can be seen. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Many thanks Gurcharan ji for validating this ID. Nidhan ji, looking forward for upload of your *Pluchea ovalis*; also eager to find upload of *Pluchea lanceolata* during this fortnight. Regards. Dinesh Dear Dr.Gurcharsinghji, I have been calling the attached plant with 5-8 cm long, auricled and coarsely dentate leaves as P. ovalis. Pls ID this plant that is strongly aromatic. Regards, Shrikant Thanks Shrikant ji for this upload. Perhaps we may have clear picture at the end of this episode. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Dear Dr Gurcharansinghji, As per T. Cooke flora outer involucral bracts 1. ovate, acute is P. tomentosa (ovalis) 2. oblong, obtuse is P. lanceolata You can see these features in Dr. Rawat's post of P. lanceolata and my post of P. ovalis Hope this resolves ID of 2 Plucheas. Regards Shrikant Dear friends, Recent Pluchea lanceolata posts by ... Gurcharan ji: Pluchea lanceolata from Delhi-GS11<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/dddADH8wkMk/e-Z6aZpNaKcJ>... Rawat ji: Pluchea lanceolata from Uttarakhand_DSR_8<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/WsCeQk8iAFA/l6enVrAXMIUJ> Nidhan ji:Pluchea lanceolata from Panipat- NS 05<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/YxFCKlBRtpA/K6aVsfS2SBoJ> All of them show aspects of plants to be consistent, especially the leaves - entire margin, sessile. With as many as 8 species of Pluchea distributed in India (Gurcharan ji's post<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/dddADH8wkMk/e-Z6aZpNaKcJ>giving keys to 7 species of *Pluchea* in India), I request you all to reconsider the ID of my posted plant. I am showing another photo, and two cropped portions of it for a closer look; hopefully the ID gets resolved. Though the sighting is another location - Vaghbil, Thane on 14 JAN 11, am confident that the plant is definitely same. I get a feeling that the leaf margin of my posted plant is serrate (or sub-serrate - not sure of terminology) and most possibly is amplexicaule. Regards. Dinesh ... and I forgot to stress on this point: the plant stands about 1.5 - 2 m tall, often in gregarious colonies. Regards. Dinesh ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> Date: 3 June 2013 14:04 Subject: [efloraofindia:156483] Asteraceae Week (Part II - Discoid heads) :: Pluchea ovalis at Karnala Bird Sanctuary :: 30 MAY 09 :: DV21 To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> Asteraceae Week (Part II - Discoid heads) aster, daisy, or sunflower family *Pluchea ovalis* (Pers.) DC. *PLOO-sha* -- named for Abbé Noel-Antoine Pluche, French naturalist ... Dave's Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3DPluchea&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdSiV36GTFETL-E2-dQVijzbcDhHA> *oh-VAY-liss* -- oval ... Dave's Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3Dovalis&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcHWZPOa3ZtKbOPX_wmNL4JcL_kDw> *toh-men-TOH-suh* -- covered with fine, matted hairs ... Dave's Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3Dtomentosa&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzeYWjhRWObnbyLPoK9bvJWjH4Wkcg> *commonly known as*: woolly camphor-weed • *Sanskrit*: कलम्बिका kalambika, सिंहलतिक्त sinhalatikta • *Tamil*: கொழும்பு kolumpu, கொழும்புவேர் kolumpu-ver • *Telugu*: kalamba *Distribution*: West Africa, Arabian peninsula, Pakistan, India *References*: Flowers of India<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FWoolly%2520Camphor-Weed.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdq_ypU3n93L0v80lvfV-7NzqbxQw>• eFlora<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.efloras.org%2Fflorataxon.aspx%3Fflora_id%3D5%26taxon_id%3D242426917&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzc9U97iEdkA9ClkPOHpaPbViYoSwA>• ENVIS - FRLHT<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fenvis.frlht.org.in%2Fbotanical_search.php%3Ftxtbtname%3DPluchea%2Btomentosa%26gesp%3D1238%257CPluchea%2Btomentosa%2BDC.&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdPOdjHKj3mxlu1jAk-AD4U_08fYw>• Floristic Survey of Institute of Science<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fiscmumbai.maharashtra.gov.in%2Ffloristic%2520survey.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcUoz-zDUNsQiwoI1xlFNbeldxUlw> at Karnala Bird Sanctuary between 30 MAY 09 and 14 JAN 11 [image: Pluchea ovalis]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F5354691786%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcsy4Mbs7qiVsYnpUC7utEAsKnVwQ> [image: Kolumpu-ver (Tamil: கொழும்புவேர்)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F4486218895%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdZLjzfFi-0GU5mAWotL52y7g948Q> [image: Kalambika (Sanskrit: कलम्बिका kalambika)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F3578555708%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfnLpm0seppm1xZ6I7htJpHnTwL0Q> [image: Kalamba (in Telugu)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F3578567064%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfewTCS2OQVIbLyt9srwCsMS5RDQg> Regards. 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