---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Chandra Ravikumar <chandraraviku...@hotmail.com> Date: 7 July 2013 16:18 Subject: RE: [bngbirds] Re: [HasiruUsiru] Catalogue of trees of Lalbagh To: livewithtr...@gmail.com, ranjin...@gmail.com, hasiruus...@yahoogroups.com Cc: raman_arunacha...@yahoo.com, swamy.c...@gmail.com, jmga...@gmail.com, mohande...@gmail.com, arunameth...@gmail.com, sangeetha.ka...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, narayan....@gmail.com, navendu.p...@gmail.com, vijay.botan...@gmail.com, giby.kuriak...@gmail.com, varunvarm...@gmail.com, snmathap...@gmail.com, vbhaska...@yahoo.co.in, ganeshkumarb...@gmail.com, rajkamalgosw...@gmail.com, chetana...@gmail.com
With so many experts willing and wanting to extend their help, this is a good time to begin on this project. I am not a botanist or academician, I reiterate, but here are some suggestions: 1. First open a mail account into which people can begin to contribute information. Different headings can be given, under which to file in the info. eg. History, folklore, geology, biogeography, ethnobotany, etc.etc. 2. Meanwhile, a detailed land map of the garden must be obtained or drawn. 3. The whole area must be marked out in a fine grid pattern, with numbers given to the grid squares. 4. When the fine Grid is super-imposed on the detailed land map, it will be very clear just which area of the park falls under which grid. Make large numbers of copies of this land map with the grid imposition. 5. Next, mark out each grid or few adjacent grids separately, enlarge each one of them, and again mark out into small numbered grids about 1 or 2 or 3 sq. ft to a grid. Print copies of these. 6. On a set of days stretching over a week or as required, call for volunteers with cameras, pen, pencil, ruler, etc. Each group of volunteers, not more than 3 to a group, will be given both the maps. 7. The group will make its way to the grid alloted to it and begin work. 8. From one end the members begin to work their way through the grid, taking photos of every ground- creeper, fungus, lichen, grass, plant, shrub, bush and tree. Mark each photo with the number of the grid sub-sect in which it is found. Maybe two or three photos of each can be taken for ease of identification. Submit the photos and maps to the organisers. 9. Now comes the work of the botanists and horticulturists. They look at the photo, identify the plant, do a field check to ascertain that the plant is present in the place mentioned. Seasonal plants will come and go and have to be accomodated. 10. The cataloguing begins, in full earnest, by the experts. This whole process will take more than a year, I think. But the recording should be done and over by the end of the rains, if possible. Seshadri's idea to rope in botany, environmnt students is very good. Cartography students too can be asked to help. Photography hobbyists can pitch in, Just ideas. Chandra ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 14:00:33 +0530 Subject: Re: [bngbirds] Re: [HasiruUsiru] Catalogue of trees of Lalbagh From: livewithtr...@gmail.com To: ranjin...@gmail.com CC: raman_arunacha...@yahoo.com; swamy.c...@gmail.com; chandraraviku...@hotmail.com; jmga...@gmail.com; mohande...@gmail.com; arunameth...@gmail.com; sangeetha.ka...@gmail.com; indiantreepix@googlegroups.com; narayan....@gmail.com; navendu.p...@gmail.com; vijay.botan...@gmail.com; giby.kuriak...@gmail.com; varunvarm...@gmail.com; snmathap...@gmail.com; vbhaska...@yahoo.co.in; ganeshkumarb...@gmail.com; rajkamalgosw...@gmail.com; chetana...@gmail.com What can be the agenda for the meet ? Compilation of available data etc. I think we need one or two volunteer botanists working on this project, which may take about a month of field study, photography and parallel compilation of data. Can we take this up as a project for MSc or BSc botany students ? Regards. On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Ranjini Kamath <ranjin...@gmail.com> wrote: Hello all I am in the US at present.I can participate only in August on a Sunday. regards Ranjini Kamath On Thursday, July 4, 2013, Raman Arunachalam wrote: I can also participate on saturday or sunday Raman On Jul 4, 2013, at 7:50 PM, M Swamy wrote: Yes, I am ready to participate. I have prior commitments on 20th and 21st July. Any other day O.K. It is better to inform one week in advance. Dr.Mahadeswara Swamy, Mysore. On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Sheshadri Ramaswamy < livewithtr...@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Friends, We could all meet for a day at Lalbagh, have a meet at one of the Horticulture buildings. Depending on response from our group members, we can propose a day's meet. Warm Regards. Sheshadri.R +91 8050401866. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 5:58 PM, M Swamy <swamy.c...@gmail.com> wrote: I think it is time to have a meeting or a symposium on the subject limited to like minded interested persons (botanists and non botanists), so that we can discuss and chalk out a time bound strategy to consolidate the data and publish a book. E flora is an excellent platform to bring all the members who are genuinely interested. I am ready to participate and do my best , though I am stationed in Mysore. Hope somebody from Bangalore would take initiative and organise the meeting for a day or two. I am positive that the suggestion would be taken positively by the members of the Bangalore group interested in trees. Dr.Mahadeswara Swamy On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Chandra Ravikumar < chandraraviku...@hotmail.com> wrote: I personally have no knowledge of the Botanical names of any plant. I am just a little conversant with the common names and folk lore. But I am willing to extend whatever help I can to a systematic, dedicated and urgently needed mapping and cataloguing. As Mr. Raman Arunachalam says, we could begin with the pooling together of all info. and knowledge, now scattered among the public, and not wait for the actual project to take off. Chandra ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 12:16:14 +0530 Subject: Re: [bngbirds] Re: [JLRNTP-1] Re: [HasiruUsiru] Catalogue of trees of Lalbagh From: livewithtr...@gmail.com To: jmga...@gmail.com; chandraraviku...@hotmail.com; mohande...@gmail.com; arunameth...@gmail.com; sangeetha.ka...@gmail.com CC: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com; narayan....@gmail.com; navendu.p...@gmail.com; vijay.botan...@gmail.com; giby.kuriak...@gmail.com; varunvarm...@gmail.com; raman_arunacha...@yahoo.com; snmathap...@gmail.com; ranjin...@gmail.com; swamy.c...@gmail.com; vbhaska...@yahoo.co.in; ganeshkumarb...@gmail.com; rajkamalgosw...@gmail.com; chetana...@gmail.com Dear All, A lot of persons have compiled data about Lalbagh Flora, independently. A lot of mails in eflora of India are about the same. One Mr Srinivas has a checklist of flora and fauna too, of Lalbagh. Mr Thiruvady's book contains a lot of information. Last week our group, HU added 2 species to the Lalbagh collection viz. Harpulia arborea and Dimocarpus longan. We need to pool data and make a flora map of Lalbagh. Regards. Sheshadri.R On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 10:46 AM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: Forwarding pl. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Ajit A* <forestow...@yahoo.com> Date: 26 June 2013 23:04 Subject: Re: Re: [JLRNTP-1] Re: [HasiruUsiru] Catalogue of trees of Lalbagh To: ** Hi Vinaya, There is a book called Heritage trees in and around Bangalore by Vijay Thiruvady. This book is published by Bangalore Environment Trust. This book has a map of Lalbagh with location of approx 100 odd heritage trees of Lalbagh. Rgds Ajit ________________________________ From: Vinaya Kumar Thimmappa <vinaya.kuma...@gmail.com> To: Sent: Wednesday, 26 June 2013 11:30 AM Subject: Re: Re: [JLRNTP-1] Re: [HasiruUsiru] Catalogue of trees of Lalbagh Hello, I did try to find out if they had a road maps of where/which tree is found in lalbagh. But my search did not yield me any results. I had seen an excellent map of about various trees in NGMA ( i think karthik helped them to make this). Below is the email that i had sent last year on a similar topic. -vinaya --------- From: Vinaya Kumar Thimmappa <vinaya.kuma...@gmail.com> Date: Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:02 PM Subject: Arboretum at NGMA To: Hello All, I happened to see a chart called Arboretum at National Gallery for Modern Art [http://ngmaindia.gov.in/ngma_bangaluru.asp] (my lunch place). Arboretum means "collection of trees". This chart had map of ngma campus and also the names of trees (in several languages) found in the campus. This is an awesome chart. As anyone else seen similar chart for any other campus ? I wish we had similar one for lalbagh too. -Vinaya ---------------------------------------- On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Uma Bharath <uma.ba...@gmail.com> wrote: > ** > > > Hi, > > The Marigowda library is open to public and is supposedly one of the > richest collections of Botanical references in the country. > When I asked in the library a few months ago if there had been a tree > census or inventory of sorts, post 1891, I drew a blank. Would appreciate > any information in this regard. > > Thanks in advance, > Uma Bharath. > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Deepa Mohan <mohande...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > > Chandra, an active volunteer at Hasiru Usiru, has unearthed this > > treasure...can someone answer the questions? > > > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Chandra Ravikumar < > > chandraraviku...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >> ** > >> > >> > >> I was able to find a 1891 catlague of the trees of Lalbagh from Wiki. > >> This is the lInk. Does any one know > >> Whether a later one is available, or has even been compiled? > >> Is the Marigowda Library open to the public? > >> Chandra > >> > >> http://archive.org/stream/cu31924000622252#page/n4/mode/1up > >> > >> > > > __,_._,___ -- With regards, J.M.Garg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. 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