Dear Brnali

yes
several possibilites popped in my head:
1. its a diiferent species as you say

2:its a cultivar / that nobody knew about

3 needs investigation
much deeper investigation than just looking at photos..
take all the steps botanists  do to help taxonomists find the answer...

like some character in Satyajit Roy's movie says" eta to bhab-bar bishoy!!!"

good luck

usha di



On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 5:57 PM, barnali dutta <barnalidutt...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear usha di,
>
> I am sending here the photographs of P. thyrsiflorus. i collected this
> from the same place from where I collected the yellow species. so as you
> said that there can be difference in climatic and soil condition because of
> the metals present in the soil but how can there be such a vast difference
> in the colour of the flower? please have a look
>
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 1:55 PM, barnali dutta <barnalidutt...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Garg sir,
>>
>> thank you for the links that you have given me. I will very soon upload
>> the photographs of P. thyrsiflorus for comparison with the yellow one.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 12:17 AM, barnali dutta <barnalidutt...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Usha di,
>>>  I have seen the photographs of Mrs Kamath and can confirmly assure you
>>> that those pics are of P. thyrsiflorus. I have collected P. thyrsiflorus
>>> also from Guwahati and some other parts of Assam.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Ushadi Micromini <
>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gargji
>>>>
>>>> I read that a couple of other threads
>>>>
>>>> color of flowers seem reddish orange
>>>> and in this thread by mrs Kamath
>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/_h2UzZ_x2GE
>>>> the flower spike could appear short depends on where one stands to take
>>>> pic...
>>>> hence a herbarium sheet of several specimen and proper dissection etc
>>>> becomes absolutely necessary.
>>>>
>>>> A graduate student  would have greater professorial resources//
>>>> taxonomic resources to study her live specimen than in  a few pictures .
>>>>
>>>> Graduate work is hard work, but labor of love and  no shortcuts
>>>>
>>>> worth it.
>>>>
>>>> usha di
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 8:49 AM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Barnali ji,
>>>>> PIcture size appears to small to see the details.
>>>>> Pl. send at least 800 by 600 pixels size. Larger the better.
>>>>> There was lot of confusion earlier in this regard on efloraofindia.
>>>>> Pl. see Phlogacanthus thyrsiformis
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/phlogacanthus/phlogacanthus-thyrsiflorus-1>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10 November 2014 23:10, barnali dutta <barnalidutt...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you very much ushadi...as i said that it is very much similar
>>>>>> to P. thyrsiflorus but so far as i know it cannot be P. thyrsiflorus
>>>>>> because here the flowers are completely yellow in colour but in
>>>>>> P.thyrsiflorus or lal basak the flowers are completely red. I have seen 
>>>>>> lal
>>>>>> basak here in Assam. I collected this from the same place from where i
>>>>>> collected lal basak. I am totally comfused.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Barnali
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 9:53 PM, Ushadi Micromini <
>>>>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you Barnali
>>>>>>> this information is basic info that one must include with each ID
>>>>>>> request. Please do so from now on, it saves you  some time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think this is ram basak... or   Phlogacanthus Thyrsiflorus Nees.,
>>>>>>> a medicinal herb in ayurvedic medicine, sometimes the inflorescence is 
>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>> taller... but he leaves here are what i have seen.  also called lal 
>>>>>>> basak.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> usha di
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 7:20 PM, barnali dutta <
>>>>>>> barnalidutt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Ushadi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Its a shrub. Flowering season is from January to mid April. Some of
>>>>>>>> the species of Phlogacanthus flowers in the month of December too. It 
>>>>>>>> grows
>>>>>>>> to a height of about 8-12 feet. some even grows longer. It is very 
>>>>>>>> similar
>>>>>>>> to P. thyrsiflorus except the flower colour.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Ushadi Micromini <
>>>>>>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> can you please tell us a little basic inof Barnali.
>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>> how tall
>>>>>>>>> shrub ot tree?
>>>>>>>>> what season/month
>>>>>>>>>  etc of this specimen
>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>> usha di
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 8:10 PM, barnali dutta <
>>>>>>>>> barnalidutt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear friends,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> please help in identifying this species of Phlogacanthus.
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