Surajit if you went to the winter flower show at hort ( i somehow think you did) then you couldn't have missed the red basak.. there were at least two large specimen with lots of flower spikes in the herb and vegetable area on the left and two or three in the annual flower section very near to the roses cordonned off area.. and several in their permanent herbal garden... may be you did not photograph it? I may be wrong and you did not go to winter flower show... regardless come this february , there will be one and lots of herbal specimen .. I sent you the bcc because i thought you might be interested in the plant that occurs in bengal and Hooghly... , if you were you could then come in, i know you are not looking at all emails /threads so ....
and your insight is always welcome, usha di On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 9:04 PM, surajit koley < surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote: > Madam, > > First, I have never seen any *Phlogacanthus* (physically), neither went > through various posts (of this genus) submitted to our group. Yet I > replied/asked a question because the thread was sent to me as cc/bcc. > > However what I read (and understand) in the Flora of British India doesn't > reflect in the identified species pictures available in the net. For > example, as per FBI or FoC > <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=125051> the > inflorescence of *P. pubinervius* is axillary but you get images in the > net having all terminal inflo! There is a discussion, in our group, in this > regard - > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/indiantreepix/CyQighbUiC4/U52ihwcgH48J > . > > The issue gets more complicated when I see an article - > http://www.academicjournals.org/article/article1403876607_Phurailatpam%20et%20al.pdf > . > > Please wait for experts' view on the ID(s) of your species. > > Thank you very much. > Regards > > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 6:29 PM, barnali dutta <barnalidutt...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Two different species of Phlogacanthus...a major difference is seen in >> their leaves.. both are shrubs but one with drooping leaves are very tall. >> in the other one the leaves are straight. >> >> Please Identify >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:07 AM, barnali dutta <barnalidutt...@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >>> pleasure is all mine >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:45 PM, surajit koley < >>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you Madam, now I can see the red flowers. >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:40 PM, barnali dutta < >>>> barnalidutt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> image of Phlogacanthus thyrsiflorus >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:37 PM, barnali dutta < >>>>> barnalidutt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Ushadi, >>>>>> >>>>>> u are right...deeper investigations have to be done. this genus is >>>>>> really confusing. All the species seems very similar. Anyways please >>>>>> share >>>>>> with any information you get about Phlogacanthus. thank u very much for >>>>>> your wishes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:23 PM, barnali dutta < >>>>>> barnalidutt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Surajit koley >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The inflorescence that are shown in the photographs are terminal >>>>>>> both for the yellow as well as the red one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:24 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is not clear to me if the inflorescence in the attached >>>>>>>> photographs are terminal or axillary or quasi-axillary on lateral >>>>>>>> branches. >>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gargji >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I read that a couple of other threads >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> color of flowers seem reddish orange >>>>>>>>> and in this thread by mrs Kamath >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/_h2UzZ_x2GE >>>>>>>>> the flower spike could appear short depends on where one stands to >>>>>>>>> take >>>>>>>>> pic... >>>>>>>>> hence a herbarium sheet of several specimen and proper dissection >>>>>>>>> etc becomes absolutely necessary. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> A graduate student would have greater professorial resources// >>>>>>>>> taxonomic resources to study her live specimen than in a few >>>>>>>>> pictures . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Graduate work is hard work, but labor of love and no shortcuts >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> worth it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 8:49 AM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Barnali ji, >>>>>>>>>> PIcture size appears to small to see the details. >>>>>>>>>> Pl. send at least 800 by 600 pixels size. Larger the better. >>>>>>>>>> There was lot of confusion earlier in this regard on >>>>>>>>>> efloraofindia. Pl. see Phlogacanthus thyrsiformis >>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/phlogacanthus/phlogacanthus-thyrsiflorus-1> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 10 November 2014 23:10, barnali dutta < >>>>>>>>>> barnalidutt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much ushadi...as i said that it is very much >>>>>>>>>>> similar to P. thyrsiflorus but so far as i know it cannot be P. >>>>>>>>>>> thyrsiflorus because here the flowers are completely yellow in >>>>>>>>>>> colour but >>>>>>>>>>> in P.thyrsiflorus or lal basak the flowers are completely red. I >>>>>>>>>>> have seen >>>>>>>>>>> lal basak here in Assam. I collected this from the same place from >>>>>>>>>>> where i >>>>>>>>>>> collected lal basak. I am totally comfused. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Barnali >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 9:53 PM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>>>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Barnali >>>>>>>>>>>> this information is basic info that one must include with each >>>>>>>>>>>> ID request. Please do so from now on, it saves you some time. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is ram basak... or Phlogacanthus Thyrsiflorus >>>>>>>>>>>> Nees., a medicinal herb in ayurvedic medicine, sometimes the >>>>>>>>>>>> inflorescence >>>>>>>>>>>> is bit taller... but he leaves here are what i have seen. also >>>>>>>>>>>> called lal >>>>>>>>>>>> basak. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 7:20 PM, barnali dutta < >>>>>>>>>>>> barnalidutt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Ushadi, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Its a shrub. Flowering season is from January to mid April. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Some of the species of Phlogacanthus flowers in the month of >>>>>>>>>>>>> December too. >>>>>>>>>>>>> It grows to a height of about 8-12 feet. some even grows longer. >>>>>>>>>>>>> It is very >>>>>>>>>>>>> similar to P. thyrsiflorus except the flower colour. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>>>>>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can you please tell us a little basic inof Barnali. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>>>>> how tall >>>>>>>>>>>>>> shrub ot tree? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> what season/month >>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc of this specimen >>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 8:10 PM, barnali dutta < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> barnalidutt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear friends, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please help in identifying this species of Phlogacanthus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it, send an email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>>>>>>>>> =========== >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>>>>>>> =========== >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more >>>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, >>>>>>>>>> Butterflies, >>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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