Dear surajit dada, u are right...... P. pubinervius has axillary inflorescence. out of those two species I think the taller one is P. thyrsiflorus only but i have doubt regarding the shorter one.
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 7:24 PM, barnali dutta <barnalidutt...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear usha di > > I stay in Guwahati but too desperately want to visit the flower show? > please let me know the proper place? I will try to manage somehow if i > can...and Phlogacanthus is really troubling me...I could not identify the > species although I have gone through several literature. > > Regards > > On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 7:47 AM, surajit koley < > surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thank you Didi, I would surely try to visit the show this time (feb/2015). >> Regards >> >> >> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 10:52 PM, Ushadi Micromini < >> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> then do come to february 2015 flower show at the hort, you'll enjoy it >>> and get to take loads of picture come for the whole day bring lunch and >>> make a picnic out of it. >>> usha di >>> >>> i'll send you the dates >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 10:13 PM, surajit koley < >>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I thank you very much Didi for sending me this thread. Yes, I am very >>>> much interested to know, not only WB or NE India species but as much as I >>>> can all over our country. And also yes, I do not go through all thread >>>> submitted to our group. >>>> >>>> In fact, I would have loved to try to ID this or these species too, but >>>> as you must have noticed that identification is not easy with so much >>>> contradiction and with so little references. >>>> >>>> I have never been to any flower show anywhere but do wish to visit very >>>> much. >>>> >>>> Thank you >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Surajit >>>>> if you went to the winter flower show at hort ( i somehow think you >>>>> did) then you couldn't have missed the red basak.. there were at least >>>>> two large specimen with lots of flower spikes in the herb and vegetable >>>>> area on the left and two or three in the annual flower section very near >>>>> to >>>>> the roses cordonned off area.. and several in their permanent herbal >>>>> garden... may be you did not photograph it? I may be wrong and you did >>>>> not >>>>> go to winter flower show... >>>>> regardless come this february , there will be one and lots of herbal >>>>> specimen .. >>>>> I sent you the bcc because i thought you might be interested in the >>>>> plant that occurs in bengal and Hooghly... , if you were you could then >>>>> come in, i know you are not looking at all emails /threads so .... >>>>> >>>>> and your insight is always welcome, >>>>> >>>>> usha di >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 9:04 PM, surajit koley < >>>>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Madam, >>>>>> >>>>>> First, I have never seen any *Phlogacanthus* (physically), neither >>>>>> went through various posts (of this genus) submitted to our group. Yet I >>>>>> replied/asked a question because the thread was sent to me as cc/bcc. >>>>>> >>>>>> However what I read (and understand) in the Flora of British India >>>>>> doesn't reflect in the identified species pictures available in the net. >>>>>> For example, as per FBI or FoC >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=125051> the >>>>>> inflorescence of *P. pubinervius* is axillary but you get images in >>>>>> the net having all terminal inflo! There is a discussion, in our group, >>>>>> in >>>>>> this regard - >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/indiantreepix/CyQighbUiC4/U52ihwcgH48J >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> The issue gets more complicated when I see an article - >>>>>> http://www.academicjournals.org/article/article1403876607_Phurailatpam%20et%20al.pdf >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> Please wait for experts' view on the ID(s) of your species. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you very much. >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 6:29 PM, barnali dutta < >>>>>> barnalidutt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Two different species of Phlogacanthus...a major difference is seen >>>>>>> in their leaves.. both are shrubs but one with drooping leaves are very >>>>>>> tall. in the other one the leaves are straight. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please Identify >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:07 AM, barnali dutta < >>>>>>> barnalidutt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> pleasure is all mine >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:45 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you Madam, now I can see the red flowers. >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:40 PM, barnali dutta < >>>>>>>>> barnalidutt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> image of Phlogacanthus thyrsiflorus >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:37 PM, barnali dutta < >>>>>>>>>> barnalidutt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dear Ushadi, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> u are right...deeper investigations have to be done. this genus >>>>>>>>>>> is really confusing. All the species seems very similar. Anyways >>>>>>>>>>> please >>>>>>>>>>> share with any information you get about Phlogacanthus. thank u >>>>>>>>>>> very much >>>>>>>>>>> for your wishes. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:23 PM, barnali dutta < >>>>>>>>>>> barnalidutt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Surajit koley >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The inflorescence that are shown in the photographs are >>>>>>>>>>>> terminal both for the yellow as well as the red one. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:24 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not clear to me if the inflorescence in the attached >>>>>>>>>>>>> photographs are terminal or axillary or quasi-axillary on lateral >>>>>>>>>>>>> branches. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>>>>>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gargji >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I read that a couple of other threads >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> color of flowers seem reddish orange >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and in this thread by mrs Kamath >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/_h2UzZ_x2GE >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the flower spike could appear short depends on where one stands >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to take >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pic... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hence a herbarium sheet of several specimen and proper >>>>>>>>>>>>>> dissection etc becomes absolutely necessary. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> A graduate student would have greater professorial >>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources// taxonomic resources to study her live specimen than >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a few >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pictures . >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graduate work is hard work, but labor of love and no >>>>>>>>>>>>>> shortcuts >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> worth it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 8:49 AM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Barnali ji, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PIcture size appears to small to see the details. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pl. send at least 800 by 600 pixels size. Larger the better. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There was lot of confusion earlier in this regard on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> efloraofindia. Pl. see Phlogacanthus thyrsiformis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/phlogacanthus/phlogacanthus-thyrsiflorus-1> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10 November 2014 23:10, barnali dutta < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> barnalidutt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much ushadi...as i said that it is very much >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar to P. thyrsiflorus but so far as i know it cannot be P. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thyrsiflorus because here the flowers are completely yellow in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> colour but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in P.thyrsiflorus or lal basak the flowers are completely red. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have seen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lal basak here in Assam. I collected this from the same place >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from where i >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collected lal basak. I am totally comfused. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Barnali >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 9:53 PM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Barnali >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this information is basic info that one must include with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each ID request. Please do so from now on, it saves you some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is ram basak... or Phlogacanthus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thyrsiflorus Nees., a medicinal herb in ayurvedic medicine, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sometimes the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inflorescence is bit taller... but he leaves here are what i >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have seen. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also called lal basak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 7:20 PM, barnali dutta < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> barnalidutt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Ushadi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its a shrub. Flowering season is from January to mid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> April. Some of the species of Phlogacanthus flowers in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> month of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> December too. It grows to a height of about 8-12 feet. some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even grows >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> longer. It is very similar to P. thyrsiflorus except the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flower colour. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can you please tell us a little basic inof Barnali. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how tall >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shrub ot tree? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what season/month >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc of this specimen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 8:10 PM, barnali dutta < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> barnalidutt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear friends, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please help in identifying this species of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phlogacanthus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emails from it, send an email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =========== >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =========== >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it, send an email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Butterflies, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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