Dr Munshi
Its not g. victoriae
both the leaves and the inflorescence are very different..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grevillea_victoriae
lots of differences
usha di
On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Aarti S. Khale <aarti.kh...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Prof Munshi Ji,
> Thank you Sir for appreciation and suggested id.
> Regards,
> Aarti
>
> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Abid Munshi <ahmunshi1...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Khale
>> The photograph uploaded is beauiful
>> Most of the species of Grevillea being grown in California are hybrids
>> but it seems the photograph is G. victoria
>> Prof. A. H. Munshi
>>
>> On 24 December 2014 at 09:58, Aarti S. Khale <aarti.kh...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Usha Di,
>>> I have attached all the pictures I had.
>>> Unfortunately, don't have any more details to reply about.
>>> How I am suppose to take the measurements would be anybody's guess,
>>> since it would be a guess only.
>>> How am I suppose to study the flowering season of an ornamental I have
>>> come across in a sight seeing trip?
>>> I really wish I had the answers and could help you further.
>>> Thanks for taking such a lot of interest in this Grevillea.
>>> For me, I am happy to identify it as a Grevillea Species Cultivar.
>>> Good day and regards,
>>> Aarti
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 6:28 AM, surajit koley <
>>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, I too look forward to Aarti Ji's feedback.
>>>> Thank you
>>>> Regards
>>>> surajit
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 6:42 AM, Ushadi Micromini <
>>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Any new thoughts
>>>>>
>>>>> Gargji please dont mark this as complete
>>>>>
>>>>> we dont have an answer from Aarti yet
>>>>>
>>>>> usha di
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Ushadi Micromini <
>>>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks Surajit for clarifying
>>>>>> it was not clear to me
>>>>>>
>>>>>> now Aarti has work to do, let see what come up in the measurement
>>>>>>
>>>>>> usha di
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 6:17 PM, surajit koley <
>>>>>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Didi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "a search for its ("superb") leaf and comparing other details like
>>>>>>> inflo size, flowering season (throughout year) may help go further"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The above means I have rather requested Aarti Ji to check leaf
>>>>>>> images and verify if those stats on inflo-leaves etc (of superb) do
>>>>>>> conform
>>>>>>> with her species.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Ushadi Micromini <
>>>>>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Surajit
>>>>>>>> how did you measure the inflorescence size? several pictures are
>>>>>>>> at an angle, not parallel to the inflorescence , so size ca n not be
>>>>>>>> determines=d one picture may be used but how? no reference object like
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> pen, a ruler a coin or a finger etc is present...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> only match is flowering in late summer and fall... but that's in
>>>>>>>> australian queensland fall...
>>>>>>>> i dont have time to compare and find the temperature humidity and
>>>>>>>> rains etc in queensland and compare it to southern california inland
>>>>>>>> areas
>>>>>>>> ....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> usha di
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 7:43 AM, surajit koley <
>>>>>>>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good morning Didi, since you have already suggested a possibility
>>>>>>>>> I also thought of *G.* "superb", a search for its ("superb") leaf
>>>>>>>>> and comparing other details like inflo size, flowering season
>>>>>>>>> (throughout
>>>>>>>>> year) may help go further. Of-course that would be a probability only.
>>>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 1:36 AM, Ushadi Micromini <
>>>>>>>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear Surajit
>>>>>>>>>> wonderful that you found and shared these links...
>>>>>>>>>> if one peruses these it becomes obvious that many sp and many
>>>>>>>>>> many more cultivars are being studied by these groups..
>>>>>>>>>> yes there at least one and one comes across a few more very
>>>>>>>>>> active study groups of exotics , not to mention university level
>>>>>>>>>> groups to
>>>>>>>>>> study and id these ... with live specimen in hand and often if not
>>>>>>>>>> live,
>>>>>>>>>> superb close ups all aspects of the plants and flowers and
>>>>>>>>>> dissections...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Aarti:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thanks for the fifth pic , but it dos not tell me the plant size
>>>>>>>>>> and details of the leaves etc...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am happy with Grevillea sp, cultivar ....
>>>>>>>>>> questions that arise with any plant and esp here with so many
>>>>>>>>>> cultivars out there...
>>>>>>>>>> what is the shape of the plant, how tall, what does the stem and
>>>>>>>>>> bark look like, branching, leaves details, and then flower
>>>>>>>>>> spike/inflorescence ... size etc...
>>>>>>>>>> I am not even sure of the color..is it pink? is it red? is it
>>>>>>>>>> orange? is it orangeish red? digital cameras do a number with some
>>>>>>>>>> red
>>>>>>>>>> colored flowers and leaves ... ... unless we also take a reference
>>>>>>>>>> card
>>>>>>>>>> with us and photograph it along with red its often difficult ...
>>>>>>>>>> esp out
>>>>>>>>>> under the open sky...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> now the question is : which do i pick from these ps pics above
>>>>>>>>>> taken in a hurry: which cultivar???
>>>>>>>>>> ..".ned kelly", "superb",, or "robyn gordon", cultivars or is
>>>>>>>>>> it g. juniperina?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> its a difficult task , you'll agree when you see and read the
>>>>>>>>>> difficulties in nailing the diagnosis based on these pictures
>>>>>>>>>> only....
>>>>>>>>>> imagine the intense scrutiny the study group undertakes...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There were many cultivars in australia already and then i can
>>>>>>>>>> imagine all the cultivars developed since it became popular in
>>>>>>>>>> american
>>>>>>>>>> southwest...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *my final diagnosis is red flowering cultivar of Grevillea sp.*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am glad you showed these and it will be in the database in
>>>>>>>>>> indiatreepix as an australian plant, and in this day and age of all
>>>>>>>>>> xeriscaping plants finding a place in international growers lists,
>>>>>>>>>> it may
>>>>>>>>>> come to india like the artichokes, kiwi, avocado etc etc have .. who
>>>>>>>>>> knows..it may be a start of another conversation..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> but today this is as far i am willing to go based on the data we
>>>>>>>>>> have.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> iti...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> usha di
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Aarti S. Khale <
>>>>>>>>>> aarti.kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Surajit Ji,
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the link.
>>>>>>>>>>> It does look like my Grevillea.
>>>>>>>>>>> Let the experts decide, since I am not one.
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Aarti
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 9:41 PM, surajit koley <
>>>>>>>>>>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for an interesting unknown exotica, this pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.sgapqld.org.au/growing_grevilleas.pdf> and article
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.pacifichorticulture.org/articles/best-grevilleas-for-southern-california/>
>>>>>>>>>>>> read
>>>>>>>>>>>> along with http://anpsa.org.au/g-super1.html may help.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 4:25 PM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole plant? ht ?? etc
>>>>>>>>>>>>> see this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> its mind boggling to say the least...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Grevillea_cultivars
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usha di
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A small tree, hardly 10 feet in height cultivated in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> garden overlooking the Golden Gate Bridge.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grevillea banksii comes to my mind on searching further.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the link.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So many different colors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aarti
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought G. robusta only
>>>>>>>>>>>>> G. lanigera, G. juniperina, are displayed as small shrubs in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hanging baskets in Farmers markets.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> i am not so sure of the diagnosis
>>>>>>>>>>>>> usha di
>>>>>>>>>>>>> its just not three
>>>>>>>>>>>>> many many are sold esp in california
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the suggested id.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could locate one more picture, giving an idea of the small
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tree.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aarti
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Aarti S. Khale <aarti.kh...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 6 November 2014 20:28
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:205415] Small Ornamental Tree :
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grevillea Species : California : 06NOV14 : AK-18
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grevillea Species seen in San Francisco on 1/10/14.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A small,ornamental tree.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aarti
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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