Thanks that it has been settled finally. But, my question is - Is G. banksii 'Superb' same as Grevillea 'Superb'? If yes, next question - Why is it G. banksii 'Superb'? Why not *G. bipinnatifida* 'Superb'?
Thank you Regards surajit On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Aarti S. Khale <aarti.kh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Gurcharan Ji, > Thanks for the distinguishing features of the leaves of Grevillea, and the > id of my pictures based on these features. > No > Thanks a lot once again. > Usha Di, > No travel plans as of now, will let you know if there are any. > > Regards, > Aarti > > On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Thanks Ushadi >> Yes It can't be G. victoriae in which leaves are unidivided >> In fact there are three groups of Grevillea species >> 1. Those with simple leaves: G. victoriae, G. juniperina, G. lanigera >> 2. Leaves bipinnatifid as in G. robusta, >> 3. Leaves pinnatifid or pinnatisect as in G. banksii. To me Aarti ji's >> plant looks like G. banksii 'Superb' >> >> >> >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> >> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Ushadi Micromini < >> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Dr Munshi >>> Its not g. victoriae >>> both the leaves and the inflorescence are very different.. >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grevillea_victoriae >>> >>> lots of differences >>> >>> usha di >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Aarti S. Khale <aarti.kh...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Prof Munshi Ji, >>>> Thank you Sir for appreciation and suggested id. >>>> Regards, >>>> Aarti >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Abid Munshi <ahmunshi1...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Khale >>>>> The photograph uploaded is beauiful >>>>> Most of the species of Grevillea being grown in California are >>>>> hybrids but it seems the photograph is G. victoria >>>>> Prof. A. H. Munshi >>>>> >>>>> On 24 December 2014 at 09:58, Aarti S. Khale <aarti.kh...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Usha Di, >>>>>> I have attached all the pictures I had. >>>>>> Unfortunately, don't have any more details to reply about. >>>>>> How I am suppose to take the measurements would be anybody's guess, >>>>>> since it would be a guess only. >>>>>> How am I suppose to study the flowering season of an ornamental I >>>>>> have come across in a sight seeing trip? >>>>>> I really wish I had the answers and could help you further. >>>>>> Thanks for taking such a lot of interest in this Grevillea. >>>>>> For me, I am happy to identify it as a Grevillea Species Cultivar. >>>>>> Good day and regards, >>>>>> Aarti >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 6:28 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, I too look forward to Aarti Ji's feedback. >>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 6:42 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any new thoughts >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gargji please dont mark this as complete >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> we dont have an answer from Aarti yet >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> thanks Surajit for clarifying >>>>>>>>> it was not clear to me >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> now Aarti has work to do, let see what come up in the measurement >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 6:17 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Didi, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "a search for its ("superb") leaf and comparing other details >>>>>>>>>> like inflo size, flowering season (throughout year) may help go >>>>>>>>>> further" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The above means I have rather requested Aarti Ji to check leaf >>>>>>>>>> images and verify if those stats on inflo-leaves etc (of superb) do >>>>>>>>>> conform >>>>>>>>>> with her species. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Surajit >>>>>>>>>>> how did you measure the inflorescence size? several pictures >>>>>>>>>>> are at an angle, not parallel to the inflorescence , so size ca n >>>>>>>>>>> not be >>>>>>>>>>> determines=d one picture may be used but how? no reference object >>>>>>>>>>> like a >>>>>>>>>>> pen, a ruler a coin or a finger etc is present... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> only match is flowering in late summer and fall... but that's in >>>>>>>>>>> australian queensland fall... >>>>>>>>>>> i dont have time to compare and find the temperature humidity >>>>>>>>>>> and rains etc in queensland and compare it to southern california >>>>>>>>>>> inland >>>>>>>>>>> areas .... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 7:43 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Good morning Didi, since you have already suggested a >>>>>>>>>>>> possibility I also thought of *G.* "superb", a search for its >>>>>>>>>>>> ("superb") leaf and comparing other details like inflo size, >>>>>>>>>>>> flowering >>>>>>>>>>>> season (throughout year) may help go further. Of-course that would >>>>>>>>>>>> be a >>>>>>>>>>>> probability only. >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 1:36 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>>>>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Surajit >>>>>>>>>>>>> wonderful that you found and shared these links... >>>>>>>>>>>>> if one peruses these it becomes obvious that many sp and many >>>>>>>>>>>>> many more cultivars are being studied by these groups.. >>>>>>>>>>>>> yes there at least one and one comes across a few more very >>>>>>>>>>>>> active study groups of exotics , not to mention university level >>>>>>>>>>>>> groups to >>>>>>>>>>>>> study and id these ... with live specimen in hand and often if >>>>>>>>>>>>> not live, >>>>>>>>>>>>> superb close ups all aspects of the plants and flowers and >>>>>>>>>>>>> dissections... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Aarti: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks for the fifth pic , but it dos not tell me the plant >>>>>>>>>>>>> size and details of the leaves etc... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy with Grevillea sp, cultivar .... >>>>>>>>>>>>> questions that arise with any plant and esp here with so many >>>>>>>>>>>>> cultivars out there... >>>>>>>>>>>>> what is the shape of the plant, how tall, what does the stem >>>>>>>>>>>>> and bark look like, branching, leaves details, and then flower >>>>>>>>>>>>> spike/inflorescence ... size etc... >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not even sure of the color..is it pink? is it red? is it >>>>>>>>>>>>> orange? is it orangeish red? digital cameras do a number with >>>>>>>>>>>>> some red >>>>>>>>>>>>> colored flowers and leaves ... ... unless we also take a >>>>>>>>>>>>> reference card >>>>>>>>>>>>> with us and photograph it along with red its often difficult ... >>>>>>>>>>>>> esp out >>>>>>>>>>>>> under the open sky... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> now the question is : which do i pick from these ps pics >>>>>>>>>>>>> above taken in a hurry: which cultivar??? >>>>>>>>>>>>> ..".ned kelly", "superb",, or "robyn gordon", cultivars or >>>>>>>>>>>>> is it g. juniperina? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> its a difficult task , you'll agree when you see and read the >>>>>>>>>>>>> difficulties in nailing the diagnosis based on these pictures >>>>>>>>>>>>> only.... >>>>>>>>>>>>> imagine the intense scrutiny the study group undertakes... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> There were many cultivars in australia already and then i can >>>>>>>>>>>>> imagine all the cultivars developed since it became popular in >>>>>>>>>>>>> american >>>>>>>>>>>>> southwest... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *my final diagnosis is red flowering cultivar of Grevillea >>>>>>>>>>>>> sp.* >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am glad you showed these and it will be in the database in >>>>>>>>>>>>> indiatreepix as an australian plant, and in this day and age of >>>>>>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>>>>> xeriscaping plants finding a place in international growers >>>>>>>>>>>>> lists, it may >>>>>>>>>>>>> come to india like the artichokes, kiwi, avocado etc etc have .. >>>>>>>>>>>>> who >>>>>>>>>>>>> knows..it may be a start of another conversation.. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> but today this is as far i am willing to go based on the data >>>>>>>>>>>>> we have. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> iti... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Aarti S. Khale < >>>>>>>>>>>>> aarti.kh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Surajit Ji, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the link. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It does look like my Grevillea. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let the experts decide, since I am not one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aarti >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 9:41 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for an interesting unknown exotica, this pdf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.sgapqld.org.au/growing_grevilleas.pdf> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> article >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.pacifichorticulture.org/articles/best-grevilleas-for-southern-california/> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> along with http://anpsa.org.au/g-super1.html may help. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 4:25 PM, J.M. Garg < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole plant? ht ?? etc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see this: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its mind boggling to say the least... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Grevillea_cultivars >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A small tree, hardly 10 feet in height cultivated in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garden overlooking the Golden Gate Bridge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grevillea banksii comes to my mind on searching further. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the link. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So many different colors. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aarti >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought G. robusta only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> G. lanigera, G. juniperina, are displayed as small shrubs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in hanging baskets in Farmers markets. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i am not so sure of the diagnosis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its just not three >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many many are sold esp in california >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the suggested id. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could locate one more picture, giving an idea of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> small tree. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aarti >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Aarti S. 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