Garg Sir, I am afraid we (Anurag Ji and I) haven't reached to any conclusion in Anurag Ji's thread yet. We will have to wait for - (1) Anurag Ji validates that all sizes do conform (2) Senior and experienced taxonomists/botanists validate that the fruits in the pictures are well within the defined limit of "round or globose berry".
One question - are we seeing any mature/almost mature fruit in any of the picture? If not can these fruits become globose after attaining full maturity?..... so fruit size is of prime importance. Second question - how much extent will we allow regional variation? Thank you Regards surajit On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 12:02 PM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > *Cayratia mollissima* as per another post > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/w4SXa_KF-p0> of > Anurag ji. > > On 10 February 2015 at 16:25, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >> >> Some earlier relevant feedback: >> I am not satisfied at what I am going to suggest, but I have >> no alternative, you may check probability of *Vitis neilgherrensis* Wight >> <http://www.plantillustrations.org/species.php?id_species=1068242>, >> which is synonymous with *Vitis himalayana* Brand., in FBI, >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/vitaceae/parthenocissus/parthenocissus-semicordata> >> but does carry some difference. >> Thank you >> Regards >> surajit >> >> Thank you very much Surajit ji. >> Being not so familiar with *Cissus* / *Vitis* of south India, my >> attempts to ID would be weaker than guesses. >> *Vitis neilgherrensis* does look like a good possibility. >> Radha's thoughts were *Cissus* ¿ *carnosa* / *trifoliata* ? >> I am yet to check on them. >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> *Vitis carnosa* of FBI falls under the sector which have stems and >> leaves usually fleshy. *Cissus carnosa* of Flora Indica has flattened >> stem, leaflets oval glossy serrate..... etc. Please check FBI and FI >> details. Relevant literature attached herewith. >> If the illustrations at >> http://www.plantillustrations.org/illustration.php?id_illustration=123032 >> looks >> similar to your plant, please note the fruits in the same illustration. >> Thank you >> Regards >> surajit >> >> I further clarify why I am not satisfied with *Vitis himalayana*, I have >> suggested so far. FBI says the plant is glabrous what is not your species. >> But at the same time var. *semicordata* from Himalaya >> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242336015> >> is hispidly pubescent. >> Thank you >> Regards >> >> Surajit >> >> I'm not at all happy with C.carnosa but feeling quite at a loss with >> this id. >> Looking through Matthew's Flora of TN Carnatic I came across Ampelocissus >> araneosa, whose leaves look quite similar. Descriptions do not match >> entirely. >> See what you think. Vitaceae members do display variation! >> regards >> Radha >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> >> Date: 24 January 2015 at 14:14 >> Subject: [efloraofindia:213906] Agumbe :: Cissus repanda FOR VALIDATION / >> ID :: DVJAN65 >> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >> >> >> >> [image: ... Agumbe] >> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F16331699121&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfHaV-Nyq1So1znJoW7JBFeI_Tyfw> >> Agumbe ... Dakshina Kannada, Karnataka >> *Date*: 26 DEC 2014 ... *Altitude*: about 700 m asl >> ------------------------------ >> *Cissus* ¿ *repanda* / else ? ... 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