Thank you Dr Singh. I will go look at the young shoots today and get some 
pictures. They are just beginning to flower so the floering season overlaps. I 
will carry a ruler and measure the leaves/petals as well. Would you say from 
the pictures that these prickles we have are strongly hooked? I have no 
reference for the straight ones. Do we have photos of R. moschata prickles?

I see the rachis and petiole are pubescent in the pictures but leaves look 
glabrous underneath but I will have a closer look today keeping these keys in 
mind.

Thank you once again for taking the time for a detailed comparison.

Warm regards,
Ashwini


> On 02-May-2015, at 9:29 am, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> These are the characters I had digged out while fixing rose growing in 
> Srinagar, Kashmir. They have often been confused in the past. R. brunonii is 
> much more commoner in Himalayas, R. moschata rarer, mostly planted.
> 
> Rosa brunonii                                                     R. moschata
> 
> 1. Young branches, leaves beneath, petiole          1.Young shoots, petioles, 
> rachis, leaves beneath 
>     and rachis pubescent.                                        except 
> midrib glabrous.
> 2. Prickles strong hooked                                    2. Prickles 
> straight or slightly curved
> 3. Leaves elliptic-lanceolate, 2.5-5 cm long           3. Leaves ovate to 
> elliptic-lanceolate, 2-7 cm long
> 4. Flowers usually more than 10                           4. Flowers usually 
> more than 10.
> 5. Early flowering, mostly April-May                      5. Late flowering, 
> mostly May-June 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ <http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/> 
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/> 
> 
> On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 11:20 PM, Ashwini Bhatia <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> This is a stand-alone shrub about 6-8 ft tall and a similar spread. The 
> stalks are prickly, leaves pinnate (7 to 9 on one). The leaf stalk has small 
> thorns below but has none above. The buds appear at the end of the branches 
> in groups. My limited experience says that it is Rosa moschata but I could be 
> confusing it with R. brunonii. Please advise.
> 
> Rosa moschata (Musk Rose)–Please confirm.
> Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP
> 1750m
> 1 May 2015
> 
> Thanks.
> Ashwini
> 
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