Tapas ji, My observation over the years is that the spines or the thorns vanish with maturity...! regards tspkumar
On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Tapas Chakrabarty <tchak...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ushadi, > So far as I understand, the basic difference between Senegalia and > Vachellia is that in the former, there will be prickles scattered all over > the branchlets while the stipules are modified into spines in the latter. > Here, the spines that you mention in the link are the characters of > Senegalia. Now coming back to the differences between S. catechu (formerly > Acacia catechu) and S. polyacantha (formerly Acacia polyacantha), in my > opinion, there is none but as per some sources, the main trunk should > contain spines in case of polyacantha and this character of difference can > be established and elucidated only through field observations on greater > areas of distribution of the plants involved. > Regards, > > > On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 10:48 AM, tsp kumar <tspkuma...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Ushaji,I will try to re-visit the next time I go there and get back to >> you. >> thanks and regards >> tspkumar >> >> On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> look at thorn in the link i gave and gargji gave a while back (same >>> page) >>> the thorn is unmistakable >>> not nubs >>> real thorns >>> >>> >>> so if you happen to be in the same part of the forest may be we get to >>> see the thorns? >>> >>> thanks >>> usha di >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 10:39 AM, tsp kumar <tspkuma...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Ushaji for the feed back.Unfortunately I do not have pictures >>>> other than the ones that I have uploaded.By the way,Burr -like thorns are >>>> visible in image no 2.Would this help...? >>>> regards >>>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> interesting study by Tapasda >>>>> >>>>> in the first picture upon enlarging there is a thorn i think ... in >>>>> the branch that's rising diagonally in the bottom of the picture and is >>>>> ending with a couple of inflorescence a small red tipped thorn seems to be >>>>> present >>>>> *TSP do you have pictures of the thorns?* >>>>> >>>>> since Senegalia polycantha 's colloquial names include claw thorn. >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/f/fabaceae/senegalia/acacia-polyacantha> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> usha di >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Tapas Chakrabarty <tchak...@gmail.com >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I am going through these images again and again and comparing them >>>>>> with the existing literature and data available to me. Once again, I am >>>>>> unable to distinguishing Acacia polyacantha with Acacia catechu. The >>>>>> cracks and fissures on the stem are usual in the latter and therefore I >>>>>> think it should be called Senegalia catechu, with S. polyacantha as its >>>>>> synonym. >>>>>> Tapas. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Tapas Chakrabarty < >>>>>> tchak...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yesterday I observed that this might be Senegalia catechu. After >>>>>>> further search through literature, I find that the plants with armed >>>>>>> stem >>>>>>> may be regarded as a variant, or a distict species, on this character >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> the available name for this entity is Senegalia polycantha, which is, >>>>>>> howerver, otherwise indistinguishable from S. catechu. This matter can >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> settled only by careful field studies of populations by some young and >>>>>>> energetic person. >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Muthu Karthick <nmk....@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Acacia chundra* of Mimosaceae? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 7:09 PM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> efi page on Senegalia polyacantha >>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/f/fabaceae/senegalia/acacia-polyacantha> >>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>> images >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>>> From: tsp kumar <tspkuma...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> Date: 12 December 2015 at 23:51 >>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:237149] ID-TSP-12DEC2015-1: Fabaceae >>>>>>>>> specimen for ID >>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear friends, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kindly identify this specimen belonging to Fabaceae. Could this be >>>>>>>>> Senegalia polycantha...??? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ref: >>>>>>>>> http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/herbsheet.php?id=1916&cat=1 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Habit:Armed tree >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Habitat:Dry deciduous forest >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sighting:Devarayanadurga,Tumkur,Karnataka,about 800 msl >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Date:29-06-2015 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks and regards >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> tspkumar >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Deputy Conservator of Forests >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Working Plan >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Chikmagalur >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ph:988057158 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *“We have not inherited this planet from our forefathers, we have >>>>>>>>> borrowed it from our children”-An American proverb* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest >>>>>>>>> in the world- more than 2500 members & 2,25,000 messages on 18.6.15) >>>>>>>>> or Efloraofindia >>>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>>>> species database of more than 11,000 species & 2,00,000 images). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more >>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, >>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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