Chadwell ji, Thank you very much for your kind reply. Yours sincerely, Tapas.
On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 6:15 PM, C CHADWELL <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Tapas > > Unfortunately, this is a challenging genus and requires serious > investigation. I have literally dozens of genera > waiting for my attention to scrutinize them further. The situation is > complicated by me having fewer reference works to-hand > and less knowledge/familiarity with the flora of the Eastern Himalaya. > > As to the suggestion A.laciniatum it seems this is no longer an accepted > name according to 'The Plant List'. Currently > under *A.heterophylloides*. According to 'Flora of Bhutan' this species > is found on grassy alpine slopes and among shrubs @ 3500- > 4570m in Sikkim & Bhutan. > > I cannot readily access reliable images or shots of herbarium specimens of > this species. > > Will be in touch when can devote the necessary time and concentration to > this or come across a fresh source of information. > > I see nobody else has volunteered any suggestions. > > > Best Wishes, > > > Chris Chadwell > > > 81 Parlaunt Road > SLOUGH > SL3 8BE > UK > > www.shpa.org.uk > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> > *To:* C CHADWELL <[email protected]> > *Cc:* J. M. Garg <[email protected]>; efloraofindia < > [email protected]> > *Sent:* Tuesday, 1 November 2016, 5:20 > *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:254056] Re: Aconitum heterophyllum [?] > (Ranunculaceae) from North Sikkim. > > There is a new suggestion - Aconitum laciniatum > > On Oct 19, 2016 00:10, "Tapas Chakrabarty" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thank you once again Sir. > Regards, > Tapas. > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Dear Sir, > Thank you. > The photograph was taken from a plant near Thangu, North Sikkim at about > 4000 m altitude. > This key belongs to an unpublished manuscript on the Flora of Sikkim and > the family Ranunculaceae is authored by R. C. Srivastava, ex Scientist of > Botanical Survey of India. > it is indeed well known that the keys to the taxa of certain plant > families should be prepared by supplementary field observations as well. > Regards, > Tapas. > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 8:08 PM, C CHADWELL <[email protected] > om <[email protected]>> wrote: > > Dear Tapas > > Thanks for sending the key. Would you let me know which publication this > comes from? > > *Would you also please provide an approx. altitude and general location > where you took your photos?* > *Such information is important and should always accompany any images of > any genus sent for* > *identification.* > > I do have the key in 'Flora of Bhutan' Vol 1 Part 2 (1984), which covers > Sikkim as well but clearly the knowledge > of the genus in the E.Himalaya has advanced since then. > > *One must always use keys with caution. They are difficult to prepare and > inevitably imperfect. They can* > *serve a useful purpose in narrowing down the most likely candidates but > even so.* > > *A major problem is that most are mostly prepared from a limited number of > dried, pressed herbarium specimens -* > *the characteristics of living/fresh specimens is often not known by > herbarium taxonomists.* > > *The detail one can see in photos - not matter how close-up they are (and > yours are not) is often inadequate* > *and/or requires inspect of both flowers and fruit, which seldom are > available together.* > > > Best Wishes, > > > Chris Chadwell > > > 81 Parlaunt Road > SLOUGH > SL3 8BE > UK > > www.shpa.org.uk > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> > *To:* > *Cc:* efloraofindia <[email protected] m > <[email protected]>>; J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2016, 9:04 > *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:254056] Re: Aconitum heterophyllum [?] > (Ranunculaceae) from North Sikkim. > > Thank you Chadwell ji, > There are 12 species of Aconitum recorded for Sikkim. I have no knowledge > in this group. > Someone gave me a Key to the species in Sikkim which I am furnishing below > thinking that it may be of some use. > Regards, > Tapas. > > 1a. > Climbing or twining herbs > 2. *A. elwesiii* > > b. > Erect herbs > 2 > 2a. > Annual herbs with slender tap roots; carpels 9 – > 12 5. *A. gymnandrum* > b. > Perennial or biennial herbs, usually with a paired tap root; carpels 3 – 5 > (-8) 3 > 3a. > Inflorescences 1 – 4-flowered > 10. *A. naviculare* > b. > Inflorescences many-flowered > 4 > 4a. > Perennial herbs > 11. *A. novoluridum* > b. > Biennial herbs > 5 > 5a. > Petals hispid or hispidulous > 6 > b. > Petals glabrous > 9 > 6a. > Carpels glabrous, drying black > 4. *A. gammiei* > b. > Carpels pubescent > 7 > 7a. > Carpels 3 (-4 – 5) > 8. *A. laciniatum* > b. > Carpels 5 > 8 > 8a. > Uppermost sepal horizontal, conspicuously beaked; carpels densely yellow > velutinous > > 9. *A. nakaoi* > > b. > Uppermost sepal oblique, shortly beaked; carpels sparsely pubescent to > glabrous > > 6. *A. heterophylloides* > 9a. > Carpels glabrous > 1. *A. bisma* > > b. > Carpels pubescent > 10 > > 10a. > Leaves from hypogynous base of stem > 7. *A. hookeri* > > b. > Leaves basal and cauline > 11 > > 11a. > Bracteoles linear, entire; flowers dirty blue; petal head *ca *6 mm > long 3. *A. ferox* > > b. > Bracteoles broad, dentate; flowers deep blue; petal head *ca *10 mm > long > 12. *A. spicatum* > > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 11:12 PM, [email protected] m > <[email protected]> <[email protected] om > <[email protected]>> wrote: > > I can say with certainty that this is definitely not *Aconitum > heterophyllu*m - a species not found in the E.Himalaya. I had delayed in > sending an initial response in hope that some else would name it! > > My knowledge of Eastern Himalayan flora is much less with relatively few > plant explorations in the region. I have not been into Sikkim proper. > > Aconitum is not an easy genus; I see there are a number of images of > specimens of this genus photographed in Sikkim on efi site which have not > be identified yet. *Another task awaiting to take a close look at all > these!* Clearly there is no expert on the genus currently available? > There are quite a number of species to consider. I could say it was > similar to one or two species but need time to look into the E.Himalayan > representatives further. Some 20+ species recorded from Bhutan & Sikkim - > though one can readily eliminate most of these. > > Shall wait further just in case there is anyone out there who can come to > our assistance? > > > On Sunday, October 9, 2016 at 6:05:01 PM UTC+1, tchakrab wrote: > > Kindly look at the attachments. 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