The major reason for including species in Red Data Book of Indian Plants (3 vols published by Botanical Survey of India in 1987,88,90 and edited by Nayar & Sastry) and later into other such documents like 1997 IUCN Redlist of Threatened Plants (Rao et al. 2003) was herbarium studies in Indian herbaria. Species not collected since long or less collected were also included in list of red taxa in addition to species facing exploitation for various purposes. As said by Chadwell Ji, I also believe that the status of these species need to be reviewed in light of current IUCN criteria and extensive field work in the probable localities all along their distribution range. Do we have resources, dedicated field workers ready to explore extremely difficult terrains, and earnest desire to do so are the issues related to this aspect of declaring plants Endangered/ Rare / Extinct.
DSRawat Pantnagar ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr D.S. Rawat Department of Biological Sciences, G.B. Pant University of Agriculture & Technology Pantnagar-263 145 Uttarakhand, INDIA *eflorapantnagar* <https://sites.google.com/site/eflorapantnagar/home> displaying wild flora of Pantnagar On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:27 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks, Chadwell ji > > On 8 Nov 2016 8:37 am, "[email protected]" < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I think this must be *P.minutissima*. Cannot think which other species >> it can be. It is a nonsense (as with Saxifraga jacquemontiana) to suggest >> this plant is Endangered. It is no such thing. I repeat my comment that I >> am at a lost to know how species are included in the Red List of Threatened >> Vascular Plants in India (the only reason it is in the IUCN Red List of >> Threatened Plants is because they accepted what was submitted - they are in >> no position to check, just as the species accepted onto Appendices for >> CITES are accepted on no actual evidence as those from the Indian Himalaya >> are *not* 'Rare & Endangered'. How can botanists who spend so little >> time in the field possibly know what is rare let alone endangered. You do >> not discover this from an office!. >> >> As Primula minutissima grows well in suitable habitat in Ladakh (I have >> seen it in several places including irrigation channels), also in the >> Kashmir Valley, Kulu Valley and know of it from Baspa Valley, Kinnuar, >> where it is flourishing. 'Flowers of Himalaya' say stony slopes in areas >> near to the Tibetan border @ 3600-5200m. I don't think the authors of these >> 'Red Lists' have spent much time on high passes in the borderlands of Tibet >> to know the status of populations of this plant, anymore than they know >> about colonies of Saxifraga jacquemontiana - neither of which is under any >> threat whatsoever. >> >> *But what about the species what are GENUINELY rare & endangered.... This >> is a seriously wrong situation which needs addressing at the highest levels >> nationally and internationally.... Claims of rarity MUST be based upon >> reliable and accurate information. How many botanists in India have >> regularly botanised and surveyed in the high mountains? And of these, how >> many can recognise, whilst in those mountains, such species as >> P.minutissima and Saxifraga jacquemontiana. I have to an extent and can >> recognise them. So perhaps my reliable evidence is worth listening to.* >> >> >> On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 at 8:13:00 AM UTC+1, D.S Rawat wrote: >> >>> *Primula minutissima* Jacq. ex Duby (Primulaceae) is a tiny carpet >>> forming herb in alpine zones of Western Himalaya. It is listed in 1997 >>> IUCN Red List of Threatened Plants and in Red List of Threatened >>> Vascular Plant Species in India (Rao *et al.* 2003). >>> >>> Though mentioned as *Endangered*, it requires review of status since in >>> the above document it is shown growing only in Kashmir. >>> >>> This photograph is taken from Kedarnath area (Uttarakhand) but >>> unfortunately in late season (October) thus have no flowers. The rosettes >>> of the plants are visible with preformed inflorescence bud in the center of >>> rosette. >>> It is an addition to eFI database, I hope. >>> >>> Dr D.S.Rawat >>> Department of Biological Sciences, G.B. Pant University of Agriculture & >>> Technology Pantnagar-263 145 Uttarakhand, INDIA >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "efloraofindia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

