Thanks Pankaj ji I would convey when ever I would recollect any. Such things really make interactions interesting. Just to share one or two: 1. I was collecting in Gulmarg forest in Kashmir nearly 38 years back when a local came to me saying that there is a plant known as sarap (snake in kashmiri) buti (plant) under which snake lives and if you pluck that plant the snake would bite. He was taken aback when I opened my bag to show him several plants of Arisaema. And then I told him that it is known as sarap buti (Cobra plant) because the spathe resembles a cobra hood and not that snake lives under it. 2. Second time around same years I was collecting weeds of saffron fields, and had collected several plants of Iris reticulata (which grows only in saffron fields of Pampore in Kashmir, and also in persia) when the saffron grower started accusing me that I had stolen saffron from his field. I tried to convince him that it was not saffron (resemble saffron but flowers are much different and appear in March, whereas saffron flowers in October), but in vain, but it convinced me that this Iris which resembles saffron in leaves as well as the corm like bulbs, would have come with saffron from Persia, which is considered as secondary source of origin of Kashmir saffron. The saffron was originally introduced from France, but it is believed that all corms of saffron were eaten by local people during severe famine in Kashmir, and saffron now in Kashmir was later introduced from Persia. This episode with saffron grower earned me a publication on ''Origin of Kashmir saffron" supported by Iris reticulata and a few more weeds which grow in Persia and Saffron fields of Kashmir and not in Europe.
-- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 2010/3/30 Pankaj Oudhia <[email protected]> > Thanks Gurucharan ji, > > I said Azad means free and Darakht means Big Tree (in Urdu). > > Are you aware of more examples like it? > > Pankaj Oudhia > > 2010/3/30 Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> > > Yes Pankaj ji >> You are right about "Azad Darakht". This is what our Chief Conservator of >> Forests in J & K had informed us 40 years back. But yes, a small >> modification Azad means free and not big. The plant grows freely, and would >> come up though self sowing and no plantation drives are needed. I hope you >> will agree. >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >> >> 2010/3/30 Pankaj Oudhia <[email protected]> >> >>> Satish ji, >>> >>> Darkht means Big tree in Urdu. >>> >>> Pankaj Oudhia >>> >>> 2010/3/30 Satish Phadke <[email protected]> >>> >>>> What does that दरख्त mean? >>>> >>>> 2010/3/30 Pankaj Oudhia <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> And if I am not wrong Azadirachta is originated from "Azad Darakht" आजाद >>>>> दरख्त >>>>> >>>>> पंकज अवधिया >>>>> >>>>> 2010/3/30 Satish Phadke <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> For many days I was wondering why you had said that "*Melia >>>>>> azadirachta** *and *Azadirachta indica* are same" On Careful >>>>>> searching I understood my mistake. >>>>>> Your sentence is absolutely correct. >>>>>> The spelling of the other plant with Lilac staminal tube is in fact >>>>>> *Melia >>>>>> azedarach L*.and not Melia azadirachta which may be many of us were >>>>>> believing like me. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2010/3/10 Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Satish ji >>>>>>> Melia azadirachta and Azadirachta indica are same, latter being the >>>>>>> correct name now. The plant uploaded by you is clearly Melia azedarach >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> bipinnate leaves and more importantly mauve coloured flowers. Former is >>>>>>> known as neem and latter Darek (Hindi), Mahanim or Gora neem. The plant >>>>>>> uploaded by Swagat seems to have bipinnate leaves and fruits which >>>>>>> resemble >>>>>>> Melia azedarach, but after I had second look at the plant, it has >>>>>>> whitish >>>>>>> flowers (like neem) but much more denser. It may turn out to be none of >>>>>>> these two species. The margin of leaflets also suggests that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2010/3/10 Satish Phadke <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In "पु. ल. देशपांडे उद्यान" on Sinhagad road A lot of these trees >>>>>>>> have been planted on Western boundary >>>>>>>> Dr Phadke >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2010/3/8 Swagat <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>> *'Azadirachta indica' **syn.* *'Melia azadirachta' *is called * >>>>>>>>> 'Nimbara'* *'निंबारा' *in Marathi. >>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Date/Time- *01st March 2010, 11.40 a.m. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- *On the way from Tonrna Fort to >>>>>>>>> Madheghat, Tahasil-Velhe, Dist. Pune, Maharashtra तोरणा किल्ला ते >>>>>>>>> मढेघाट >>>>>>>>> या वाटेवर, ता.- वेल्हा, जि.- पुणे, महाराष्ट्र >>>>>>>>> *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- *Wild >>>>>>>>> *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- *Tree >>>>>>>>> *Height/Length- >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> *Inflorescence Type/ Size- >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- * >>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ~Swagat >>>>>>>>> 9223217568 / 9422317979 >>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> 'I am only one; but still I am one. 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