Thanks Pankaj ji and Gurcharan ji Interesting and useful info. Dr Phadke 2010/3/30 Pankaj Oudhia <[email protected]>
> Thanks Gurucharan ji for sharing valuable experience. I still dream to live > such life and contribute to the science in this way. Thanks again. > > regards > > > Pankaj Oudhia > > 2010/3/30 Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> > >> Thanks Pankaj ji >> I would convey when ever I would recollect any. Such things really make >> interactions interesting. Just to share one or two: >> 1. I was collecting in Gulmarg forest in Kashmir nearly 38 years back when >> a local came to me saying that there is a plant known as sarap (snake in >> kashmiri) buti (plant) under which snake lives and if you pluck that plant >> the snake would bite. He was taken aback when I opened my bag to show him >> several plants of Arisaema. And then I told him that it is known as sarap >> buti (Cobra plant) because the spathe resembles a cobra hood and not that >> snake lives under it. >> 2. Second time around same years I was collecting weeds of saffron fields, >> and had collected several plants of Iris reticulata (which grows only in >> saffron fields of Pampore in Kashmir, and also in persia) when the saffron >> grower started accusing me that I had stolen saffron from his field. I tried >> to convince him that it was not saffron (resemble saffron but flowers are >> much different and appear in March, whereas saffron flowers in October), but >> in vain, but it convinced me that this Iris which resembles saffron in >> leaves as well as the corm like bulbs, would have come with saffron from >> Persia, which is considered as secondary source of origin of Kashmir >> saffron. The saffron was originally introduced from France, but it is >> believed that all corms of saffron were eaten by local people >> during severe famine in Kashmir, and saffron now in Kashmir was later >> introduced from Persia. This episode with saffron grower earned me a >> publication on ''Origin of Kashmir saffron" supported by Iris reticulata and >> a few more weeds which grow in Persia and Saffron fields of Kashmir and not >> in Europe. >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >> >> >> 2010/3/30 Pankaj Oudhia <[email protected]> >> >>> Thanks Gurucharan ji, >>> >>> I said Azad means free and Darakht means Big Tree (in Urdu). >>> >>> Are you aware of more examples like it? >>> >>> Pankaj Oudhia >>> >>> 2010/3/30 Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>> >>> Yes Pankaj ji >>>> You are right about "Azad Darakht". This is what our Chief Conservator >>>> of Forests in J & K had informed us 40 years back. But yes, a small >>>> modification Azad means free and not big. The plant grows freely, and would >>>> come up though self sowing and no plantation drives are needed. I hope you >>>> will agree. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2010/3/30 Pankaj Oudhia <[email protected]> >>>> >>>>> Satish ji, >>>>> >>>>> Darkht means Big tree in Urdu. >>>>> >>>>> Pankaj Oudhia >>>>> >>>>> 2010/3/30 Satish Phadke <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>>> What does that दरख्त mean? >>>>>> >>>>>> 2010/3/30 Pankaj Oudhia <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> And if I am not wrong Azadirachta is originated from "Azad Darakht" >>>>>>> आजाद दरख्त >>>>>>> >>>>>>> पंकज अवधिया >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2010/3/30 Satish Phadke <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For many days I was wondering why you had said that "*Melia >>>>>>>> azadirachta** *and *Azadirachta indica* are same" On Careful >>>>>>>> searching I understood my mistake. >>>>>>>> Your sentence is absolutely correct. >>>>>>>> The spelling of the other plant with Lilac staminal tube is in fact >>>>>>>> *Melia azedarach L*.and not Melia azadirachta which may be many of >>>>>>>> us were believing like me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2010/3/10 Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Satish ji >>>>>>>>> Melia azadirachta and Azadirachta indica are same, latter being the >>>>>>>>> correct name now. The plant uploaded by you is clearly Melia >>>>>>>>> azedarach with >>>>>>>>> bipinnate leaves and more importantly mauve coloured flowers. Former >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> known as neem and latter Darek (Hindi), Mahanim or Gora neem. The >>>>>>>>> plant >>>>>>>>> uploaded by Swagat seems to have bipinnate leaves and fruits which >>>>>>>>> resemble >>>>>>>>> Melia azedarach, but after I had second look at the plant, it has >>>>>>>>> whitish >>>>>>>>> flowers (like neem) but much more denser. It may turn out to be none >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> these two species. The margin of leaflets also suggests that. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2010/3/10 Satish Phadke <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In "पु. ल. देशपांडे उद्यान" on Sinhagad road A lot of these trees >>>>>>>>>> have been planted on Western boundary >>>>>>>>>> Dr Phadke >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2010/3/8 Swagat <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>> *'Azadirachta indica' **syn.* *'Melia azadirachta' *is called * >>>>>>>>>>> 'Nimbara'* *'निंबारा' *in Marathi. >>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Date/Time- *01st March 2010, 11.40 a.m. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- *On the way from Tonrna Fort >>>>>>>>>>> to Madheghat, Tahasil-Velhe, Dist. Pune, Maharashtra तोरणा किल्ला >>>>>>>>>>> ते >>>>>>>>>>> मढेघाट या वाटेवर, ता.- वेल्हा, जि.- पुणे, महाराष्ट्र >>>>>>>>>>> *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- *Wild >>>>>>>>>>> *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- *Tree >>>>>>>>>>> *Height/Length- >>>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>>> *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- >>>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>>> *Inflorescence Type/ Size- >>>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>>> *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- >>>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>>> *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- * >>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ~Swagat >>>>>>>>>>> 9223217568 / 9422317979 >>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> 'I am only one; but still I am one. 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