Dear all,
I had with me Ptycosperma elegens and P. macarthurii. The picture here does
not match any of these palms. After reading more I feel that Mr. Greby is
correct. I go with his opinion.
Promila

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Kenneth Greby <fstf...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>  You are welcome Dinesh. Enjoy your palms.
>
> Regards--
> Ken.
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com>
> *To:* Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com>; Kenneth Greby <
> fstf...@yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* Yazdy Palia <yazdypa...@gmail.com>; shrikant ingalhalikar <
> le...@rediffmail.com>; efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tue, May 18, 2010 11:52:36 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:35241] Re: DV - 15MAY10 - 0425 :: pencil
> palm
>
> Kenneth, many many thanks for the precious link; zeroed to *Ptychosperma
> macarthurii* ... ruled out *P. elegans* just as you too have pointed out:
> single-stemmed and also seems too tall.
>
> Shrikant ji, this plant does have leaflets similar to that of fishtail
> palm, however not as broad at tip as in *P. caryotoides*.
> *P. caryotoides* having habit of single stem with traces of temder green
> skin VERSUS *P. macarthurii* having clumping habit with dry-skin makes me
> think in favour of the MacArthur Palm.
>
> Many thanks Yazdi ji for your validating thoughts.
>
> Below put are interesting links for reference leading me to *P.
> macarthurii*
>
>
> ..............................................
>
>
> Ptychosperma caryotoides ... Fishtail Solitaire Palm ... New Guinea ...
> Small, single trunk
> Ptychosperma macarthurii ... MacArthur Palm ... Australia ... Multiple
> stemmed
> http://palm_doctor.homestead.com/palm14.html
>
> ..............................................
>
>
> Ptychosperma caryotoides
> Solitary, feather-leafed, crownshaft palm. Trunk to 2 inches thick. Dark
> green leaves are wedged shaped. Overall height to 20 feet with a 4-6 foot
> spread.
> http://www.dasignsourcebotanicals.com/plant_details.cfm?id=465
>
> ..............................................
>
>
> Ptychosperma macarthurii
> Clumping, feather-leafed, crownshaft palm. Trunks to 2 inches thick.
> Crownshaft and leaves a dark emerald green. Height to 35 feet with a 15-20
> foot spread.
> http://www.dasignsourcebotanicals.com/plant_details.cfm?id=467
>
> ..............................................
>
>
> Scientific Name: Ptychosperma macarthurii.  Common name: Macarthur Palm .
> Small attractive clustering trunk feather leaf palm w/narrow leaflets.
> Bright red fruits on a with red to orange infructescence branches. Native to
> northern Australia. East to grow from seeds. Attractive as free-standing
> groupings or as a accent planting with other tropical vegetation.
>
>
> http://www.especies-seeds.com/catalog.php/especiesbotanics/dt68938/pd1842766/Ptychosperma_macarthurii__Collector_s_packet_of_Fresh_harvest_seeds_100_seeds
>
> ..............................................
>
>
> Ptychosperma caryotoides    Solitare Palm    New Guinea    Small species
> grows up to 30 ft in rainforest mountains Thin trunk. Rare in cultivation.
>
> Ptychosperma macarthurii    MacArthur Palm    Australia    Slender clumping
> palm. Keep warm, moist, protect from wind.
>
> http://www.hanagardenland.com/hanagardenland14.html
>
> ..............................................
>
>
> Ptychosperma macarthurii
>
> Scientific Synonymy:
> Kentia macarthurii, Saguaster macarthurii, Actinophloeus macarthurii,
> Carpentaria bleeseri, Ptychosperma bleeseri, Actinophloeus hospitus,
> Ptychosperma julianettii, Ptychosperma hospitum, Actinophloeus macarthurii
> var. hospitus
>
> Common Synonymy:
> Bleesers Palm
>
> Common Name: MacArthur Palm
>
> http://www.trebrown.com/plant_info.php?species=Ptychosperma+macarthurii
>
> ..............................................
>
>
>
> Regards.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>  We have simial in Delhi as Dypsis lutescens
>>
>>
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>> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Yazdy Palia <yazdypa...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Friends,
>>> It should be Ptychosperma macarthurii. Please check the links
>>> http://www.palmguide.org/images.php?family=ARECACEAE&genus=Ptychosperma
>>> http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/45895/
>>> Incidentally, I have four such clumps at the two entrances to our
>>> home. Once again I did not know the name or species, till You guys
>>> kindled the interest by this mail.
>>> Regards
>>> Yazdy.
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:44 PM, shrikant ingalhalikar
>>> <le...@rediffmail.com> wrote:
>>> > This would be Ptychosperma caryotoides. Pls note the tip of leaflets
>>> > that resemble the Caryota leaflets. Regards, Shrikant
>>> >
>>> > On May 18, 8:05 pm, Kenneth Greby <fstf...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> >> Dinesh--
>>> >>
>>> >>  What is the diameter of the stems? Is the 3-4m height that of clear
>>> trunk?
>>> >>
>>> >>  I'm leaning toward a Ptychosperma species, perhaps P. elegans. But
>>> it's possible it could be a Chamaedorea.
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards--
>>> >> Ken.
>>> >>
>>> >> ________________________________
>>> >> From: Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com>
>>> >> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>
>>> >> Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 7:54:34 AM
>>> >> Subject: [efloraofindia:35196] DV - 15MAY10 - 0425 :: pencil palm
>>> >>
>>> >> Dear friends,
>>> >> ID please,
>>> >> ... do not go by the name, pencil palm ... coined the name because the
>>> stem looks to me, pencil-thin !!
>>> >>
>>> >> Date/Time: May 15, 2010 at 4.25pm IST
>>> >> Location Place: Veermata Jijabai Bhosale Udyan premises, car parking
>>> area near Dr Bahu Daji Lad Museum
>>> >>
>>> >> Altitude: 10 m
>>> >> GPS: 18°58'46.04"N, 72°50'4.06"E
>>> >>
>>> >> Habitat :
>>> >> garden
>>> >> Type: ...
>>> >>
>>> >> Plant
>>> >> Habit : tree (palm)
>>> >> Height: about 3 - 4 m
>>> >> Length: - not a climber -
>>> >>
>>> >> Leaves
>>> >> Type: pinnate-compound, spirally arranged
>>> >> Shape: ...
>>> >> Size: about 2 m
>>> >>
>>> >> Inflorescence
>>> >> Type: ...
>>> >> Size: ...
>>> >>
>>> >> Flowers
>>> >> Size: ...
>>> >> Colour: ...
>>> >> Calyx: ...
>>> >> Bracts: - no bracts -
>>> >>
>>> >> Fruits
>>> >> Type: ...
>>> >> Shape: ...
>>> >> Size: ...
>>> >> Seeds: ...
>>> >>
>>> >> Other
>>> >> Info
>>> >> Fragrance: ...
>>> >> Pollinator: ...
>>> >> Uses: ...
>>> >>
>>> >> Too much of "do not know" !!
>>> >>
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