Scrophularia L. - GBIFhttps://www.gbif.org/species/3170861/metrics
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Scrophularia himalayensis Royle ex Benth.
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Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 1:43 PM Ashwini Bhatia <mcleodw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> As discussed in the group by other members before, there is some confusion
> about the nomenclature of this species. While Francis Pennell 
> (*Scrophulariaceae
> of the Western Himalyas*) and earlier George Bentham (*Scrophularianeae
> Indicae*) both use *Scrophularia himlayensis*, POWO only recognises 
> *Scrophularia
> himalensis*.
>
> A very similar plant, *Scrophularia elatior*, is listed in Flora of China
> and is accepted by POWO. The distribution is given *Nepal and farther
> east towards South-central China*.
>
> There is no mention of *S. himalensis* in Flora of China, which is
> understandable as POWO gives its distribution only farther west of Nepal: *in
> Uttarakhand, Himachal Pradesh and Jammu & Kashmir.*
>
> So our plants should be *S. himalensis *since *S. himalayensis* is not
> accepted by POWO or the Plant List.
>
> When and how the name changed or whether it was a result of a typo, I
> could not find out.
>
> Pennell describes the species as:
>
> "Leaf-blades cordate at base, dentate but not lobed, glabrate;
> inflorescence relatively wide about 10 cm. wide; sepals obtuse-rounded,
> slightly scarious-margined; corolla becoming 4-5 mm. long; style 6-9 mm.
> long; seeds 0.5-0.6 mm. long; stems terete."
>
> This fits our species well. However, dimensions vary a bit as they would
> if Pennell was describing the species using herbarium specimens.  I am yet
> to see the seeds but the *inflorescence can be 20cm wide and 45-50cm long* on
> plants which can be more than 6ft tall. Corolla length is correct in the
> description but *style is roughly 12mm long*. The four stamens are
> slightly shorter and I could not find any staminodes. The *leaves can be
> as large as 25cm long and 12cm wide* and vary in shape on the same plant,
> some more elongated than others. To me, the leaves are one of the most
> attractive of all plants. Petiole has a groove running along its length and
> some can have hairs on the sides. The main stem is squarish with rounded
> edges, becoming more round upwards. It may not be very strong as it's
> common to see the plants battered by rain.
>
> It is also difficult to see the corolla made up of two lips. I have tried
> but not understood properly.
>
> I am sharing some photos here to show some of these features.
>
> All photos taken in Mcleodganj and above, between 1750-1850m elevations,
> this year and earlier.
>
> Thank you.
> Ashwini Bhatia
>
> PS: I had to remove some photos as the message size exceeded 8mb.
>
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