A Marvellous presentation Ashwini Ji,
With regards.

On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 at 13:55, Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Scrophularia L. - GBIFhttps://www.gbif.org/species/3170861/metrics
> <https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwio25mZ-obkAhW17XMBHY6ZAz4QFjAAegQIAhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gbif.org%2Fspecies%2F3170861%2Fmetrics&usg=AOvVaw1Mh8BI_jDGD2GfFUl8mA3O>
> Scrophularia himalayensis Royle ex Benth.
> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/41698dc5635f4c2e80a035b8fdc42467>
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 1:43 PM Ashwini Bhatia <mcleodw...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> As discussed in the group by other members before, there is some
>> confusion about the nomenclature of this species. While Francis Pennell 
>> (*Scrophulariaceae
>> of the Western Himalyas*) and earlier George Bentham (*Scrophularianeae
>> Indicae*) both use *Scrophularia himlayensis*, POWO only recognises 
>> *Scrophularia
>> himalensis*.
>>
>> A very similar plant, *Scrophularia elatior*, is listed in Flora of
>> China and is accepted by POWO. The distribution is given *Nepal and
>> farther east towards South-central China*.
>>
>> There is no mention of *S. himalensis* in Flora of China, which is
>> understandable as POWO gives its distribution only farther west of Nepal: *in
>> Uttarakhand, Himachal Pradesh and Jammu & Kashmir.*
>>
>> So our plants should be *S. himalensis *since *S. himalayensis* is not
>> accepted by POWO or the Plant List.
>>
>> When and how the name changed or whether it was a result of a typo, I
>> could not find out.
>>
>> Pennell describes the species as:
>>
>> "Leaf-blades cordate at base, dentate but not lobed, glabrate;
>> inflorescence relatively wide about 10 cm. wide; sepals obtuse-rounded,
>> slightly scarious-margined; corolla becoming 4-5 mm. long; style 6-9 mm.
>> long; seeds 0.5-0.6 mm. long; stems terete."
>>
>> This fits our species well. However, dimensions vary a bit as they would
>> if Pennell was describing the species using herbarium specimens.  I am yet
>> to see the seeds but the *inflorescence can be 20cm wide and 45-50cm
>> long* on plants which can be more than 6ft tall. Corolla length is
>> correct in the description but *style is roughly 12mm long*. The four
>> stamens are slightly shorter and I could not find any staminodes. The *leaves
>> can be as large as 25cm long and 12cm wide* and vary in shape on the
>> same plant, some more elongated than others. To me, the leaves are one of
>> the most attractive of all plants. Petiole has a groove running along its
>> length and some can have hairs on the sides. The main stem is squarish with
>> rounded edges, becoming more round upwards. It may not be very strong as
>> it's common to see the plants battered by rain.
>>
>> It is also difficult to see the corolla made up of two lips. I have tried
>> but not understood properly.
>>
>> I am sharing some photos here to show some of these features.
>>
>> All photos taken in Mcleodganj and above, between 1750-1850m elevations,
>> this year and earlier.
>>
>> Thank you.
>> Ashwini Bhatia
>>
>> PS: I had to remove some photos as the message size exceeded 8mb.
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