A Marvellous presentation Ashwini Ji, With regards. On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 at 13:55, Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Scrophularia L. - GBIFhttps://www.gbif.org/species/3170861/metrics > <https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwio25mZ-obkAhW17XMBHY6ZAz4QFjAAegQIAhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gbif.org%2Fspecies%2F3170861%2Fmetrics&usg=AOvVaw1Mh8BI_jDGD2GfFUl8mA3O> > Scrophularia himalayensis Royle ex Benth. > <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/41698dc5635f4c2e80a035b8fdc42467> > > Thank you. > > Saroj Kasaju > > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 1:43 PM Ashwini Bhatia <mcleodw...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> As discussed in the group by other members before, there is some >> confusion about the nomenclature of this species. While Francis Pennell >> (*Scrophulariaceae >> of the Western Himalyas*) and earlier George Bentham (*Scrophularianeae >> Indicae*) both use *Scrophularia himlayensis*, POWO only recognises >> *Scrophularia >> himalensis*. >> >> A very similar plant, *Scrophularia elatior*, is listed in Flora of >> China and is accepted by POWO. The distribution is given *Nepal and >> farther east towards South-central China*. >> >> There is no mention of *S. himalensis* in Flora of China, which is >> understandable as POWO gives its distribution only farther west of Nepal: *in >> Uttarakhand, Himachal Pradesh and Jammu & Kashmir.* >> >> So our plants should be *S. himalensis *since *S. himalayensis* is not >> accepted by POWO or the Plant List. >> >> When and how the name changed or whether it was a result of a typo, I >> could not find out. >> >> Pennell describes the species as: >> >> "Leaf-blades cordate at base, dentate but not lobed, glabrate; >> inflorescence relatively wide about 10 cm. wide; sepals obtuse-rounded, >> slightly scarious-margined; corolla becoming 4-5 mm. long; style 6-9 mm. >> long; seeds 0.5-0.6 mm. long; stems terete." >> >> This fits our species well. However, dimensions vary a bit as they would >> if Pennell was describing the species using herbarium specimens. I am yet >> to see the seeds but the *inflorescence can be 20cm wide and 45-50cm >> long* on plants which can be more than 6ft tall. Corolla length is >> correct in the description but *style is roughly 12mm long*. The four >> stamens are slightly shorter and I could not find any staminodes. The *leaves >> can be as large as 25cm long and 12cm wide* and vary in shape on the >> same plant, some more elongated than others. To me, the leaves are one of >> the most attractive of all plants. Petiole has a groove running along its >> length and some can have hairs on the sides. The main stem is squarish with >> rounded edges, becoming more round upwards. It may not be very strong as >> it's common to see the plants battered by rain. >> >> It is also difficult to see the corolla made up of two lips. I have tried >> but not understood properly. >> >> I am sharing some photos here to show some of these features. >> >> All photos taken in Mcleodganj and above, between 1750-1850m elevations, >> this year and earlier. >> >> Thank you. >> Ashwini Bhatia >> >> PS: I had to remove some photos as the message size exceeded 8mb. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "efloraofindia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAAKUM9Aj5cmZnWEnvE1ST4_fhYd%3DNNVMptfhyQvrvz5Pz80x%2Bg%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAAKUM9Aj5cmZnWEnvE1ST4_fhYd%3DNNVMptfhyQvrvz5Pz80x%2Bg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAEf%3DytSWW%2BnWWr0uHDzE7me7%3D71gvy1PBNS1uA-fXkJhx%3DV7FA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAEf%3DytSWW%2BnWWr0uHDzE7me7%3D71gvy1PBNS1uA-fXkJhx%3DV7FA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAPTGuvHjgVe7yCX_fJyXOk0Ynh9XJqMSLQPYYgEVeCPaaKMBHw%40mail.gmail.com.