Hi, Singh ji,
Pl. check *Saraca indica *per Flora Malesiana
<http://portal.cybertaxonomy.org/flora-malesiana/cdm_dataportal/taxon/3406275b-6084-4846-b01b-ae4c370e9cc4>
 (*Flowering collections of Saraca indica can be recognized by the rather
higher number of stamens (usually 6-8) and the bracteoles which are
erecto-patent to spreading, not clasping the pedicel, and caducous or
persistent during anthesis*.) with differences as per illustration at Link
<http://portal.cybertaxonomy.org/flora-malesiana/cdm_dataportal/taxon/3406275b-6084-4846-b01b-ae4c370e9cc4/images>.


Descriptions are given below:
*Saraca indica *
*Tree to 24 m tall and 34 cm in diam*. *Leaves (l-)2-4(-7)-jugate*,
subsessile to shortly petioled; petiole and rachis (0.5-)7-25(-35) cm
long. *Inflorescences
up to 10(-22) cm wide*, *slightly pubescent or subglabrous*, *main branches
up to c. 14 cm long, 1.5-5 mm diam*.; bracts elliptic or ovate-oblong, 3-8
by 1.5-4.5 mm, caducous or persistent, puberulous and/or minutely ciliate
on the margin; *bracteoles caducous or persistent during anthesis,
erecto-patent to spreading, *broadly elliptic or ovate, 3-8 by 1.5-5 mm,
glabrous or minutely ciliate on the margin; pedicels (4-) 12-20(-35) mm,
the length between bracteoles and flower 7-10(-14) mm. *Flowers orange
yellow, to deep orange or purple, or red, articulated near the base,
glabrous. **Stamens (5 or) 6-8(-10); filaments 10-35 mm, often puberulous
at the basal parts*; anthers ellipsoid or oblong, c. 1 mm long; staminodes
absent. Seeds ovoid-oblong, sometimes reniform, 4-5 by 2-2.5 cm, and
0.6-1.2 cm thick.
*Asia-Tropical:, Jawa (Jawa ‒ present); Laos (Laos ‒ present); Malaya
(Peninsular Malaysia ‒ present); Sumatera (Sumatera ‒ present); Thailand
(Thailand ‒ present) S Vietnam: present*
*Thailand, Laos, S Vietnam; Malesia: Sumatra, Malay Peninsula, Java*
Commonly cultivated as an ornamental

*Saraca asoca*
*Tree up to 10 m tall and 10 cm in diam*., *sometimes shrub or medium-sized
shrub, 4.5 m tall*. *Leaves (l-)4-6-jugate*, subsessile to shortly
petioled; (petiole and) rachis (0.5-)7-15(-30) cm long. *Inflorescences
1.5-12(-20) cm wide*, glabrous, *main* *branches up to c. 6 cm long, 1.5-2
mm diam*.; bracts broadly ovate, ovate or obovate, 1-6 by 1 — 3.5( — 5) mm,
caducous or persistent, puberulous and/or minutely ciliate on the
margin; *bracteoles
persistent during anthesis, erect, embracing the pedicel, never spreading
more than 45° from the pedicel, *ovate, elliptic, or obovate, 2-7 by 1.5-4
mm, sparsely puberulous, subglabrous or glabrous except minutely ciliate on
the margin; pedicels 8-18 mm, the length between bracteoles and flower
(4-)7-10 mm. *Flowers obscurely or not articulated near the base*,
subglabrous or glabrous, *orange yellow, when older deep orange or orange
red*,* fragrant during the night*. *Stamens (5 — )6 — 8( — 10);* *filaments
(10-) 17-25 mm, glabrous*; anthers ellipsoid or oblong, 1.5-2 mm long;
staminodes 0-2. Seeds oblong-ellipsoid, sometimes slightly reniform, 2-3 by
1.25-2 cm, and 0.6-1 cm thick.
*Asia-Tropical:, Bangladesh (Bangladesh ‒ present); India ‒ present; Jawa
(Jawa ‒ present); Malaya (Peninsular Malaysia ‒ present); Sri Lanka (Sri
Lanka ‒ present); Sumatera (Sumatera ‒ present) Papua New Guinea: present
west of the Irrawaddy R.: present*
India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Burma (west of the Irrawaddy R.).
Introduced and cultivated in Malesia, specimens seen from Sumatra, Malay
Peninsula, Java, Papua New Guinea.
The species is frequently planted near shrines, occasionally in gardens and
villages as an ornamental. Its bark, leaves and flowers said to have
medicinal properties .

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 at 10:51
Subject: [efloraindia:98652] Fabaceae-Caesalpinioideae (Caesalpiniaceae)
Week: Looking for Saraca indica L.
To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>


Dear friends
The fact that Flora of British India described the sacred Ashok tree under
the name Saraca indica L., and Jonesia asoka Roxb. as its synonym, has
often led many to believe that perhaps Saraca asoka  and Saraca indica are
the same tree and synonyms, the fact is not exactly so.

As it appears the Sacred Indian Ashok tree was decribed by Roxburgh under
the name Jonesia asoka, but the name got ignored because earlier Beddome
(1870) in Fl. Sylv. and later Baker in FBI (1878) thought this to be same
as Saraca indica L., described by Linnaeus, and the name Saraca indica L.
continued to be used from this important sacred tree.

It was De Wilde in 1967 who established that Indian plant is distinct from
Saraca indica L., and made a new combination Saraca asoka (Roxb.) De Wilde,
based on Jonesia asoka Roxb., and that is now the accepted name for our
tree, quite distinct and not synonymous with Saraca indica L.

Whereas Saraca asoka (Roxb.) De Wilde is native of South India, Bangladesh
and Western Myanmar, it has been introduced in other parts of India and
other countries of SE Asia and Tropical Africa.

Saraca indica L., on the other hand is native of Laos, Thailand; Vietnam,
Indonesia, Java, Sumatra and  Malaysia. but is reported (Flora Ceylone) to
be introduced into India (along with Saraca declinata (Jacq.) Miq. and
Saraca thaipingensis Cantley ex Prain). Perhaps it would be interesting to

1. know the difference bewtween Saraca asoka (Roxb.) De Wilde and Saraca
indica L.
2. Locate, photograph and upload real Saraca indica L.

Alo if any one is lucky to find other two species, also introduced in India.

Who knows it may be among some of our photographs.

-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
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SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/



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