Pl. see Saroj ji's post from Thailand at SK 2383 13 January 2020
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/FfAD5ZuAfbw>

On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 16:08, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:

> It would now be interesting to locate in S. indica occurs in India.
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> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Mob: 9810359089
> https://sing96.wixsite.com/mysite-1
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> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 4:06 PM Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks a lot Garg ji, you also gave me link to online version of this
>> important Flora.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>> Retired  Associate Professor
>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>> Mob: 9810359089
>> https://sing96.wixsite.com/mysite-1
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 3:12 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Singh ji,
>>> Pl. check *Saraca indica *per Flora Malesiana
>>> <http://portal.cybertaxonomy.org/flora-malesiana/cdm_dataportal/taxon/3406275b-6084-4846-b01b-ae4c370e9cc4>
>>>  (*Flowering collections of Saraca indica can be recognized by the
>>> rather higher number of stamens (usually 6-8) and the bracteoles which are
>>> erecto-patent to spreading, not clasping the pedicel, and caducous or
>>> persistent during anthesis*.) with differences as per illustration at
>>> Link
>>> <http://portal.cybertaxonomy.org/flora-malesiana/cdm_dataportal/taxon/3406275b-6084-4846-b01b-ae4c370e9cc4/images>.
>>>
>>>
>>> Descriptions are given below:
>>> *Saraca indica *
>>> *Tree to 24 m tall and 34 cm in diam*. *Leaves (l-)2-4(-7)-jugate*,
>>> subsessile to shortly petioled; petiole and rachis (0.5-)7-25(-35) cm long. 
>>> *Inflorescences
>>> up to 10(-22) cm wide*, *slightly pubescent or subglabrous*, *main
>>> branches up to c. 14 cm long, 1.5-5 mm diam*.; bracts elliptic or
>>> ovate-oblong, 3-8 by 1.5-4.5 mm, caducous or persistent, puberulous and/or
>>> minutely ciliate on the margin; *bracteoles caducous or persistent
>>> during anthesis, erecto-patent to spreading, *broadly elliptic or
>>> ovate, 3-8 by 1.5-5 mm, glabrous or minutely ciliate on the margin;
>>> pedicels (4-) 12-20(-35) mm, the length between bracteoles and flower
>>> 7-10(-14) mm. *Flowers orange yellow, to deep orange or purple, or red,
>>> articulated near the base, glabrous. **Stamens (5 or) 6-8(-10);
>>> filaments 10-35 mm, often puberulous at the basal parts*; anthers
>>> ellipsoid or oblong, c. 1 mm long; staminodes absent. Seeds
>>> ovoid-oblong, sometimes reniform, 4-5 by 2-2.5 cm, and 0.6-1.2 cm thick.
>>> *Asia-Tropical:, Jawa (Jawa ‒ present); Laos (Laos ‒ present); Malaya
>>> (Peninsular Malaysia ‒ present); Sumatera (Sumatera ‒ present); Thailand
>>> (Thailand ‒ present) S Vietnam: present*
>>> *Thailand, Laos, S Vietnam; Malesia: Sumatra, Malay Peninsula, Java*
>>> Commonly cultivated as an ornamental
>>>
>>> *Saraca asoca*
>>> *Tree up to 10 m tall and 10 cm in diam*., *sometimes shrub or
>>> medium-sized shrub, 4.5 m tall*. *Leaves (l-)4-6-jugate*, subsessile to
>>> shortly petioled; (petiole and) rachis (0.5-)7-15(-30) cm long. 
>>> *Inflorescences
>>> 1.5-12(-20) cm wide*, glabrous, *main* *branches up to c. 6 cm long,
>>> 1.5-2 mm diam*.; bracts broadly ovate, ovate or obovate, 1-6 by 1 —
>>> 3.5( — 5) mm, caducous or persistent, puberulous and/or minutely ciliate on
>>> the margin; *bracteoles persistent during anthesis, erect, embracing
>>> the pedicel, never spreading more than 45° from the pedicel, *ovate,
>>> elliptic, or obovate, 2-7 by 1.5-4 mm, sparsely puberulous, subglabrous or
>>> glabrous except minutely ciliate on the margin; pedicels 8-18 mm, the
>>> length between bracteoles and flower (4-)7-10 mm. *Flowers obscurely or
>>> not articulated near the base*, subglabrous or glabrous, *orange
>>> yellow, when older deep orange or orange red*,* fragrant during the
>>> night*. *Stamens (5 — )6 — 8( — 10);* *filaments (10-) 17-25 mm,
>>> glabrous*; anthers ellipsoid or oblong, 1.5-2 mm long; staminodes 0-2. Seeds
>>> oblong-ellipsoid, sometimes slightly reniform, 2-3 by 1.25-2 cm, and 0.6-1
>>> cm thick.
>>> *Asia-Tropical:, Bangladesh (Bangladesh ‒ present); India ‒ present;
>>> Jawa (Jawa ‒ present); Malaya (Peninsular Malaysia ‒ present); Sri Lanka
>>> (Sri Lanka ‒ present); Sumatera (Sumatera ‒ present) Papua New Guinea:
>>> present west of the Irrawaddy R.: present*
>>> India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Burma (west of the Irrawaddy R.).
>>> Introduced and cultivated in Malesia, specimens seen from Sumatra, Malay
>>> Peninsula, Java, Papua New Guinea.
>>> The species is frequently planted near shrines, occasionally in gardens
>>> and villages as an ornamental. Its bark, leaves and flowers said to have
>>> medicinal properties .
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 at 10:51
>>> Subject: [efloraindia:98652] Fabaceae-Caesalpinioideae (Caesalpiniaceae)
>>> Week: Looking for Saraca indica L.
>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear friends
>>> The fact that Flora of British India described the sacred Ashok tree
>>> under the name Saraca indica L., and Jonesia asoka Roxb. as its synonym,
>>> has often led many to believe that perhaps Saraca asoka  and Saraca indica
>>> are the same tree and synonyms, the fact is not exactly so.
>>>
>>> As it appears the Sacred Indian Ashok tree was decribed by Roxburgh
>>> under the name Jonesia asoka, but the name got ignored because earlier
>>> Beddome (1870) in Fl. Sylv. and later Baker in FBI (1878) thought this to
>>> be same as Saraca indica L., described by Linnaeus, and the name Saraca
>>> indica L. continued to be used from this important sacred tree.
>>>
>>> It was De Wilde in 1967 who established that Indian plant is distinct
>>> from Saraca indica L., and made a new combination Saraca asoka (Roxb.) De
>>> Wilde, based on Jonesia asoka Roxb., and that is now the accepted name for
>>> our tree, quite distinct and not synonymous with Saraca indica L.
>>>
>>> Whereas Saraca asoka (Roxb.) De Wilde is native of South India,
>>> Bangladesh and Western Myanmar, it has been introduced in other parts of
>>> India and other countries of SE Asia and Tropical Africa.
>>>
>>> Saraca indica L., on the other hand is native of Laos, Thailand;
>>> Vietnam, Indonesia, Java, Sumatra and  Malaysia. but is reported (Flora
>>> Ceylone) to be introduced into India (along with Saraca declinata (Jacq.)
>>> Miq. and Saraca thaipingensis Cantley ex Prain). Perhaps it would be
>>> interesting to
>>>
>>> 1. know the difference bewtween Saraca asoka (Roxb.) De Wilde and Saraca
>>> indica L.
>>> 2. Locate, photograph and upload real Saraca indica L.
>>>
>>> Alo if any one is lucky to find other two species, also introduced in
>>> India.
>>>
>>> Who knows it may be among some of our photographs.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> With regards,
>>> J.M.Garg
>>>
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With regards,
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