---------- Forwarded message --------- From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 29 Feb 2020 at 16:06 Subject: Re: [itpmods:13632] Could we think of restoring interactions on efloraofindia? To: itpmods <itpm...@googlegroups.com>
Yes, a single dedicated individual like Saroj ji can make so much of a difference with the support of our team. On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 at 15:53, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> wrote: > I truly understand Gurcharan sirs point and so agree that interactions > have went down. However I will never compare our group with a Facebook > group. I can’t say all but I estimate that almost 60% of people there have > no idea and they don’t understand what’s going on. Some are even addicted > to Facebook. If I make one response I get ten friendship request on > Facebook. So much so that they even send. Add request to my fiancé and she > asks me if I know them. > Many of them copy paste. People like Gurcharan sir many other members of > this group are not looking for praises, they have crossed that period of > their life and only looking to help others selflessly. So I would say don’t > get disheartened. > As for activity on our group I had been at the same speed long time back > and I used to comment on others but then I made some mistakes and realised > that I should not be trying to guess plant names which I have less idea > about. I work on Orchidaceae and I have a bit of knowledge of Thismiaceae > so I focus on these (never got anything from second family). > I also have no words for Garg sir who takes so much time meticulously > sending id requests to particular members and organising each family one by > one. I don’t think I have such patience and capabilities. As for my side I > can assure that I will try to be more active. Although I never liked thank > you replies so I never sent or replied. > Kudos to all members who have kept on the speed and we are not just a team > but a family, and we will always be. > I really wish to mention here the DANADAN contribution of Saroj sir. He is > such a restless guy posting pictures almost every day. I seriously can’t do > that!! We should name him DANADAN POSTER ON EFLORAOFINDIA!! > Thanks and regards > Pankaj > > On Saturday, February 29, 2020, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >> Date: Sat, 29 Feb 2020 at 09:31 >> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:344063] Fwd: [itpmods:13627] Could we think >> of restoring interactions on efloraofindia? >> To: <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >> >> >> Rightly said Mr. Garg, >> >> Bhagbat Gita says : कर्मण्येवाधिकारस्ते मा फलेषु कदाचन । मा >> कर्मफलहेतुर्भुर्मा ते संगोऽस्त्वकर्मणि ! >> >> Still human nature expects some acknowledgements and interactions >> >> Thank you. >> Saroj Kasaju >> On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 at 9:08 am, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>> From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>> Date: Sat, 29 Feb 2020 at 08:52 >>> Subject: Re: [itpmods:13627] Could we think of restoring interactions on >>> efloraofindia? >>> To: itpmods <itpm...@googlegroups.com> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, Singh ji and others for your valuable inputs. >>> I think need of the hour is to change ourselves. I think following >>> changes in approach is required: >>> 1. *To be satisfied by posting (without expecting many thank you mails)* >>> with the promise that it will appear in our database and will be looked >>> into by hundreds of people all over the world over a period of time >>> (although again without thank you mails) and mistakes, if any, will be >>> noticed and rectified over a period of time (if not immediately). Today, >>> if any resource is more seen all over the world, it is efloraofindia (as >>> far as Indian resources are concerned). Thank you mails are a two way >>> sword. Although it may encourage the posting member, it may distract others >>> by making them see the same material again and again, every time thank you >>> mail is posted. >>> 2. *Post high resolution/ original images*,* for seeing minute details >>> like those (or better) seen in large resolution specimens*. This way >>> these valuable images will never be lost. Future publications all over the >>> world may like to rely more on efloraofindia, if such details are available >>> (may be without giving any credit directly to it, being a secondary >>> source). We have no issue as far as size is concerned except that it has to >>> be less than 8 Mb to be posted on the group. Saroj ji has already done a >>> great job in this regard. >>> 3. *To get more and more serious members (those who post complete >>> details) to post on the group*.* One way is to help with quick ids and >>> another is to make all out efforts so that difficult ids are finally nailed >>> even in a larger time frame. For this, any of the experts on the group may >>> help as and when he can spare time*. I have the feeling that actual >>> constructive output has never gone down, but in fact increased over a >>> period of time. This may be attributed to the fact that we now have a large >>> database with textual and photographic keys along with other details. >>> Thanks to the earlier contributions by hundreds of our valuable members. If >>> all the ids get settled in say seven days time, I may get more time to sort >>> out more and more genera every month in our site and make comparative >>> images with keys along with rectifying the wrong identifications (*This >>> job can also be taken up by any of the experts/ members*, but so far no >>> one has come forward except some efforts made by Chadwell ji in the past. >>> What any of the experts can do is look at all the species in a genus in our >>> site and point out mistakes, if any wrong identifications. This job has now >>> become easier as most of the images on our site are already displayed above >>> every thread). >>> >>> In this group, all the selfless contributions are duly recognised and >>> kept on record for posterity, for members to be more satisfied and they can >>> boast of such work in any forum. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 20:49, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur < >>> anilthakur2...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Sir, I was busy with my other assignments. >>>> I'll surely start interacting again after 2-3 months. >>>> >>>> We always enjoy your posts whenever get time. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> On Fri, 28 Feb, 2020, 7:58 PM Nidhan Singh, <nidhansingh...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Gurcharan Sir, >>>>> >>>>> I agree with your views, that the interactions on this forum have >>>>> drastically declined, and it is Garg Ji who keep on interacting, despite >>>>> all the limitations.. >>>>> He is making best efforts to manage the huge data gathered in due >>>>> course of time, and certainly it is boosted by small number of new >>>>> posts... >>>>> but this is nothing to feel pleased of..!! >>>>> Saroj Ji keep postings on, you have also restarted after a long gap, >>>>> Dinesh Ji too keep on posting every now and then.. many members, including >>>>> myself, have gone silent due to one or the other reasons...!! >>>>> I always wished for restoration of interactions, as you have desired, >>>>> but I remember that even in the most interactive phase, only few members >>>>> kept on interacting on regular basis..compared to the total number of >>>>> members..!! >>>>> As said by Tapas Ji, if any of the post remains >>>>> unresponsive/unattended, the poster certainly feels bad..and it must be >>>>> avoided, if possible..!! >>>>> Having discussed the problem, I now wish that we come out with some >>>>> suggestions or decision about sharing of responsibilities...and for the >>>>> time being, we should accept this platform as it is, because it is not >>>>> openly interactive like facebook groups..who knows the technical >>>>> advancement offers some newer versions/options to make the deliberations >>>>> instantly publicised/appreciated.. >>>>> Being open has its disadvantages too.. >>>>> I personally see my inbox as frequently as I see facebook >>>>> posts..though I may not be able to respond as frequently as clicking the >>>>> like button of FB.. >>>>> All I know is, interacting on eFI is far better than any of the >>>>> facebook activities..Let us hope to resume the action....!! >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to itpmods+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CAE%3DTH0Du%3DWpMiHpzbZjeqkN8QP4Kb9m02k7gYkA7%2Brn0esS6rw%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CAE%3DTH0Du%3DWpMiHpzbZjeqkN8QP4Kb9m02k7gYkA7%2Brn0esS6rw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to itpmods+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CAEWs%3DZkEoC%3D1hdKz5kUwsJrr%2BxtQ2BrUDFptAgi_MhYHb9vxCQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CAEWs%3DZkEoC%3D1hdKz5kUwsJrr%2BxtQ2BrUDFptAgi_MhYHb9vxCQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>> >>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>> >>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >>> world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>> Efloraofindia >>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>> database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than >>> 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19). >>> >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>> >>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>> India'. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>> >>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>> >>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >>> world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>> Efloraofindia >>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>> database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than >>> 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19). >>> >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>> >>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>> India'. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BiuSFCMAVPuh0%2BT_HO9y-0TEfBdpvU3j_CrKWryPpnE9cC58A%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BiuSFCMAVPuh0%2BT_HO9y-0TEfBdpvU3j_CrKWryPpnE9cC58A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> Thank you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "efloraofindia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAEf%3DytQAFybLKoDVKpOiX-XTdydz%2Bf5%3D7aePZ_RQAUb%3DPBHt8A%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAEf%3DytQAFybLKoDVKpOiX-XTdydz%2Bf5%3D7aePZ_RQAUb%3DPBHt8A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >> >> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >> >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >> world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >> Efloraofindia >> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >> database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than >> 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19). >> >> The whole world uses my Image Resource >> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >> >> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >> India'. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "ITPmods" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to itpmods+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CA%2BiuSFDBs4AHqmEscHsY86PdqD1wh-%2B-ZO9QW469SdUmGVzRXg%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CA%2BiuSFDBs4AHqmEscHsY86PdqD1wh-%2B-ZO9QW469SdUmGVzRXg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > > > -- > ****************************************************** > **************************************************************** > *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. > *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* > > *Office*: > > Orchid Conservation Section > > Flora Conservation Department > > Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation > Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China > > *email*: pku...@kfbg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com > *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 > (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "ITPmods" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to itpmods+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CABpo8%3D3QdjVpmcPNCZra-q_3g19B5P5XmDOFMxWSMYT_q3%2BubA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CABpo8%3D3QdjVpmcPNCZra-q_3g19B5P5XmDOFMxWSMYT_q3%2BubA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- With regards, J.M.Garg 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19). The whole world uses my Image Resource <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. -- With regards, J.M.Garg 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19). The whole world uses my Image Resource <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BiuSFC5A%2BqSc%2B0%3DMtj%2BuqYN7WzrFS2qiD9HRbpzeAQUMUkxFA%40mail.gmail.com.
