Thanks dear Wojciech Adanowski for detailed. We can only hope that some younger who studies the Himalayan populations in field is able to reach meaningful conclusion.
Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Mob: 9810359089 https://sing96.wixsite.com/mysite-1 On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 9:51 PM Wojciech Adamowski <kruszczyk1...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Sorry for unexpected break - I had some difficult days in my work. > Now I would like to explain my reluctance in giving names to plants known > to me only from pictures. > There is a lot of confusion about this group and this confusion is only > partially solved by paper by Akiyama and Ohba. > The same authors described another taxon from this group - I. bajurensis > with gigantic flowers: > Akiyama S., Ohba H. 1993. Notes of Impatiens from west Nepal. J. Jap. Bot. > 68(3): 156-158. > Recently Czech colleagues found interesting form in Nepal, with rather > short lower sepal, but also rather short spur. This form has different > chromosome number. > Also Rajib Gogoi in his book show 2 different forms with rather short > lower sepal: one yellow flowered and one almost white flowered. I am not > sure if his plants are true I. tricornuta and I. scabrida... > This way giving names to only superficially studied plants could be easily > error. > Best regards Wojciech > W piątek, 28 lutego 2020, 10:04:00 CET, Gurcharan Singh < > singh...@gmail.com> napisał(-a): > > > I must mention that all images were taken between 11.37 and 11.38 am. > > > > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Mob: 9810359089 > https://sing96.wixsite.com/mysite-1 > > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 2:31 PM Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Thanks Garg ji, > If second image 532 is accepted as I. scabrida, all others from the same > population should also be so. Shinobu Akiyama and Hideaki Ohba in their > 2016 where they suggested the shift of several specimens to I. tricornis, > mentioned characters of I. scabrida as "Lower sepal navicular or > infundibuliform,9–12 mm long, 5.5–8 mm deep (excluding the spur), tapering > into a long upwardly or downwardly curved spur; spur 17–25 mm in > overall length". > > > > > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Mob: 9810359089 > https://sing96.wixsite.com/mysite-1 > > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 1:22 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > > So what we finally take this as ? > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: *Gurcharan Singh* <singh...@gmail.com> > Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 at 15:30 > Subject: [efloraofindia:343620] Sorting our I. > edgeworthii/scabrida/tricornis populations: I. scabrida from Tiger Fall > Area Chakrata > To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>, Ashutosh Sharma < > ashutoshsharma1...@gmail.com>, Wojciech Adamowski <kruszczyk1...@yahoo.com > > > > > This population from Tiger Fall area of Chakrata seems to fit the > description in the Paper which led us here,and the absence of distinct > lobule of I. edgeworthii and "Lower sepal navicular or > infundibuliform,9–12 mm long, 5.5–8 mm deep (excluding the spur), tapering > into a long upwardly or downwardly curved spur; spur 17–25 mm in > overall length". > > > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Mob: 9810359089 > https://sing96.wixsite.com/mysite-1 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAHiXKpUW%3DvmqXv%3DjB9C%2Bw8PmVBTPgWQ_yH0%3DrW7VYwUyBPeeDg%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAHiXKpUW%3DvmqXv%3DjB9C%2Bw8PmVBTPgWQ_yH0%3DrW7VYwUyBPeeDg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > > Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or > Efloraofindia > website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than > 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19). > > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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