Thank you Chris ji for the ID. Thanks Garg ji for following up on the post.
Thanks and regards Alka Khare On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 2:51:22 PM UTC+5:30, JM Garg wrote: > > Thanks a lot, Chris ji. > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Chris Fraser-Jenkins > Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 at 13:23 > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:347143] Mahabaleshwar, MH :: Fern for ID :: > ARK2020-080 > To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com <javascript:>> > > > Well it's pretty much the same - by the time it reaches me it goes out of > focus when one magnifies it enough to see the venation. But you have a > look and see if you can see what I think I am seeing - a very narrow areole > formed by the anastomosing basal veinlets, the areole running along the > pinna-costa? Is that right? So I thinkit's just P. biaurita subsp. > fornicata, which is a triploid-apomictic subspecies of P. biaurita - a very > common and widespread species. > Best wishes, > Chris Fraser-Jenkins, Portugal. > > On Sunday, 5 April 2020, 07:50:39 WEST, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > > > Thanks, Alka ji. > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: *Alka Khare* <alk...@gmail.com <javascript:>> > Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 at 10:59 > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:347143] Mahabaleshwar, MH :: Fern for ID :: > ARK2020-080 > To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>> > > > Thanks Chris ji for your feedback. > > I am uploading the original pic. Hope this can help. > > Thanks and regards > Alka Khare > > On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 4:45:51 PM UTC+5:30, JM Garg wrote: > > Thanks a lot, Chris ji. > Hi, Alka ji, > Pl. post high resolution image as desired by Chris ji. > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: *Chris Fraser-Jenkins* > Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 at 15:45 > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:346943] Mahabaleshwar, MH :: Fern for ID :: > ARK2020-080 > To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> > > > It is a Pteris of the P. biaurita group (where the bases of the ultimate > segments are quite widely joined, so that the inter-pinnular sinus is quite > a bit above the pinna-costa). > I have tried hard to see the venation between the segment-bases - as it is > essential in this group. Photo 1 - I think? - seems to show that there is > a narrow areole all along next to the costa, with veins arising from it and > passing up to the sinus. If that is so then it is P. biaurita subsp. > fornicata. > If it is possible to get the herbarium-specimen and make a close-up > photo of the bases of a couple of segments against the light, we could then > see the identity for sure. > Could you do that and repost it? Or otherwise can you send me a > higher-resolution image of photo 1, so I can magnify it enough to see those > essential veins? > Chris Fraser-Jenkins. > > On Saturday, 4 April 2020, 08:11:47 WEST, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Thanks, Alka ji > > -- > With regards, > J. M. 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