Were the flowering images from the same tree ? On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 10:46, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Also send original image of fruit. > > On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 10:45, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Pl. check if the pericarp was woody. >> But proportional shape is clearly of *Paulownia fortunei * >> >> On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 10:28, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur < >> anilthakur2...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Garg ji, fruit size is also important. In this case, fruits are only 3-4 >>> cm long (not more than 6cm as in case of O. fortunii). I have seen other >>> plants as well but not the fruits in that case. >>> Actually, both species were introduced in India by the Forest Research >>> Institute Dehradun. I may be having flowering twigs of other species as >>> well and will report back to you. >>> Regards >>> >>> On Tue, 19 May, 2020, 10:05 AM J.M. Garg, <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On thoroughly checking on net and all our posts, I think *Paulownia >>>> tomentosa *and *Paulownia fortunei *quite confusing. I could not find >>>> the difference between the two on net anywhere except in Flora of China. >>>> >>>> Keys in Flora of China >>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=124177> >>>> are as below: >>>> 4 (1) >>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=124177#KEY-1-1> >>>> *Capsule >>>> oblong to oblong-ellipsoid, 6-10 cm*; pericarp woody, 3-6 mm; >>>> inflorescences subcylindric; corolla ventral plaits inconspicuous; calyx >>>> 2-2.5 cm 4 Paulownia fortunei >>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200020797> >>>> + *Capsule ovoid, ovoid-ellipsoid, or ellipsoid, 3-5.5 cm*; pericarp >>>> not woody, to 3 mm; inflorescences pyramidal or narrowly conical; corolla >>>> ventral plaits conspicuous; calyx to 2 cm. (5) >>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=124177#KEY-1-5> >>>> >>>> 5 (4) >>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=124177#KEY-1-4> >>>> Capsule >>>> viscid-glandular hairy; calyx lobes as long as or longer than tube, not >>>> glabrescent 1 Paulownia tomentosa >>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200020800> >>>> + Capsule pubescent when young; calyx lobes shorter than tube, partly >>>> glabrescent. (6) >>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=124177#KEY-1-6> >>>> >>>> Pl see the illustration of both as below: >>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3556&flora_id=2 >>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3554&flora_id=2 >>>> >>>> *From flowers it is very difficult to arriva eat the species. Also >>>> aspect of calyx is also confusing. I think most important character to >>>> separate the two is the fruit*. >>>> >>>> *From fruit shape, I think it should be **Paulownia fortunei *as in >>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3554&flora_id=2 >>>> https://plants.ces.ncsu.edu/plants/paulownia-fortunei/ >>>> >>>> Fruit shape of *Paulownia tomentosa *is different as per >>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3556&flora_id=2 >>>> >>>> http://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/PlantFinder/PlantFinderDetails.aspx?kempercode=a888 >>>> https://landscapeplants.oregonstate.edu/plants/paulownia-tomentosa >>>> https://www.invasiveplantatlas.org/subject.html?sub=2426 >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>> From: Anil Thakur <anilthakur2...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 at 21:01 >>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:306297] Re: Paulownia tomentosa >>>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Posting some more photographs of this highly beautiful ornamental tree. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> On Monday, 15 December 2014 22:29:04 UTC+5:30, Anil Thakur wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Respected Members, >>>>> >>>>> It is a beautiful deciduous tree which flowers in March/April. >>>>> >>>>> Botanical name: Paulownia tomentosa >>>>> Common names: Empress tree, Princess tree, Foxglove tree >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> -- >>>>> Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur >>>>> Associate Professor (Botany) >>>>> Govt. 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