Garg Ji, all of my photographs at efloraofindia are from the same location and trees. I have another set of photographs from Solan, which I perceive to be P. fortunei.
Regards On 5/19/20, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > Were the flowering images from the same tree ? > > On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 10:46, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Also send original image of fruit. >> >> On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 10:45, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Pl. check if the pericarp was woody. >>> But proportional shape is clearly of *Paulownia fortunei * >>> >>> On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 10:28, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur < >>> anilthakur2...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Garg ji, fruit size is also important. In this case, fruits are only >>>> 3-4 >>>> cm long (not more than 6cm as in case of O. fortunii). I have seen >>>> other >>>> plants as well but not the fruits in that case. >>>> Actually, both species were introduced in India by the Forest Research >>>> Institute Dehradun. I may be having flowering twigs of other species as >>>> well and will report back to you. >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> On Tue, 19 May, 2020, 10:05 AM J.M. Garg, <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On thoroughly checking on net and all our posts, I think *Paulownia >>>>> tomentosa *and *Paulownia fortunei *quite confusing. I could not find >>>>> the difference between the two on net anywhere except in Flora of >>>>> China. >>>>> >>>>> Keys in Flora of China >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=124177> >>>>> are as below: >>>>> 4 (1) >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=124177#KEY-1-1> >>>>> *Capsule >>>>> oblong to oblong-ellipsoid, 6-10 cm*; pericarp woody, 3-6 mm; >>>>> inflorescences subcylindric; corolla ventral plaits inconspicuous; >>>>> calyx >>>>> 2-2.5 cm 4 Paulownia fortunei >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200020797> >>>>> + *Capsule ovoid, ovoid-ellipsoid, or ellipsoid, 3-5.5 cm*; pericarp >>>>> not woody, to 3 mm; inflorescences pyramidal or narrowly conical; >>>>> corolla >>>>> ventral plaits conspicuous; calyx to 2 cm. (5) >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=124177#KEY-1-5> >>>>> >>>>> 5 (4) >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=124177#KEY-1-4> >>>>> Capsule >>>>> viscid-glandular hairy; calyx lobes as long as or longer than tube, >>>>> not >>>>> glabrescent 1 Paulownia tomentosa >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200020800> >>>>> + Capsule pubescent when young; calyx lobes shorter than tube, partly >>>>> glabrescent. (6) >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=124177#KEY-1-6> >>>>> >>>>> Pl see the illustration of both as below: >>>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3556&flora_id=2 >>>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3554&flora_id=2 >>>>> >>>>> *From flowers it is very difficult to arriva eat the species. Also >>>>> aspect of calyx is also confusing. I think most important character to >>>>> separate the two is the fruit*. >>>>> >>>>> *From fruit shape, I think it should be **Paulownia fortunei *as in >>>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3554&flora_id=2 >>>>> https://plants.ces.ncsu.edu/plants/paulownia-fortunei/ >>>>> >>>>> Fruit shape of *Paulownia tomentosa *is different as per >>>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3556&flora_id=2 >>>>> >>>>> http://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/PlantFinder/PlantFinderDetails.aspx?kempercode=a888 >>>>> https://landscapeplants.oregonstate.edu/plants/paulownia-tomentosa >>>>> https://www.invasiveplantatlas.org/subject.html?sub=2426 >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>> From: Anil Thakur <anilthakur2...@gmail.com> >>>>> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 at 21:01 >>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:306297] Re: Paulownia tomentosa >>>>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Posting some more photographs of this highly beautiful ornamental >>>>> tree. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, 15 December 2014 22:29:04 UTC+5:30, Anil Thakur wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Respected Members, >>>>>> >>>>>> It is a beautiful deciduous tree which flowers in March/April. >>>>>> >>>>>> Botanical name: Paulownia tomentosa >>>>>> Common names: Empress tree, Princess tree, Foxglove tree >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur >>>>>> Associate Professor (Botany) >>>>>> Govt. 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You can also use them for free as >> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >> >> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >> India'. >> > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > > Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or > Efloraofindia > website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than > 2,50,000 images are directly displayed on 31.1.20). > > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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