Yes it is what we have been treating as C. fontanum (var. triviale), it is our choice whether we want to follow POWO and call it C. glomeratum or follow WFO and call it Cerastium fontanum subsp. vulgare. It is high time we decide and put boldly on our website which Database we are following. We can't tell the World that we are following different databases for different plants, which one for this particular taxon?
On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 9:13:06 PM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote: > > > -- > With regards, > J. M. Garg > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Shakir Ahmad (Amateur Taxonomist) <saadiks...@gmail.com> > Date: Sun, 13 Jun, 2021, 8:16 pm > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:387976] Id request for this species of > Arenaria . > To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> > > > Let me confirm it sir > > On Sun, 13 Jun, 2021, 5:59 pm J.M. Garg, <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On further consideration, it appears close to* Cerastium holosteoides* >> as per POWO >> <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:152312-1> >> (syn: *Cerastium fontanum* subsp. *vulgare* (Hartman) Greuter & Burdet >> of Flora of China >> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242000274>) >> >> On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 at 16:52, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Taxonomy of *Cerastium fontanum* looks quite complex. >>> Also no habit and lower portion image, makes the task further difficult. >>> Cerastium fontanum does not have distribution in our area as per POWO >>> <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:152255-1> >>> >>> and CoL and also looks different as per GBIF >>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=3085458> specimens. >>> Two subspecies can be expected as per FoP >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242311891> >>> and CoN >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=106150> >>> *Cerastium fontanum* subsp. *triviale* (Link) Jalas (syn. of *Cerastium >>> glomeratum* <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/14/cerastium-glomeratum/> as >>> per POWO >>> <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:152274-1>) >>> >>> looks different as per GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/species/3085440> >>> specimens. >>> *Cerastium fontanum* subsp. *grandiflorum* H. Hara appears somewhat >>> close as per POWO >>> <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:875735-1>, >>> >>> GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/species/8496662> specimens- one >>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kew.org%2Fherbcatimg%2F669837.jpg>, >>> >>> two >>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1441383504197bEIC0hHNKXNvKNxn>, >>> >>> three >>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1441383491530LNFCqEo7g6Rd0vjl>, >>> >>> but has only distribution in Nepal as per CoN >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=242000275> >>> and POWO >>> <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:875735-1> >>> >>> and CoL >>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/annual-checklist/2019/details/species/id/f8a907798601bf82f4a5497300eb51e0/synonym/a1bc91bb3ab53d89e8d68dc30839f99c>. >>> >>> But it appears close to your area as per distribution in POWO. >>> But I am still not sure. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, 6 Jun 2021 at 13:20, Shakir Ahmad (Amateur Taxonomist) < >>> saadiks...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes it resembles with C. fontanum... >>>> >>>> On Sun, 6 Jun, 2021, 12:54 pm Gurcharan Singh, <sing...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Surely Cerastium, bifid petals and 5 styles, more pictures would help >>>>> but lax flowers and petals shorter than sepals suggest C. fontanum >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, June 2, 2021 at 5:36:47 PM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Also could not find a match with any species as per Flora of Pakistan >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=106150>. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 17:23, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Does not match with either of the three as per comparative images at >>>>>>> Cerastium <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/14/cerastium/> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, 27 May 2021 at 15:35, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ok, Shakir ji >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> J. M. Garg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 May, 2021, 3:17 pm Shakir ahmad (Ammatuer Taxonomist), < >>>>>>>> saadiks...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We have 3 sp. Of Cerastium here. >>>>>>>>> C.davuricum. >>>>>>>>> C.cerastoides. >>>>>>>>> C.fontanum. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 May, 2021, 2:49 pm J.M. Garg, <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No, It is not Arenaria. >>>>>>>>>> I am asking about Cerastium. >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>> J. M. Garg >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 May, 2021, 2:04 pm Shakir ahmad (Ammatuer Taxonomist), >>>>>>>>>> <saadiks...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We have areneria serpylifolia and A.kashmirica >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 May, 2021, 1:56 pm J.M. Garg, <jmg...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. I need list of species reported in your area or in J >>>>>>>>>>>> and K. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> J. M. Garg >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Shakir ahmad (Ammatuer Taxonomist) <saadiks...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 27 May, 2021, 1:19 pm >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:386308] Id request for this species >>>>>>>>>>>> of Arenaria . >>>>>>>>>>>> To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Habit. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 May, 2021, 11:55 am J.M. Garg, <jmg...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Shakir ji, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pl. post a habit image. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To me styles appear to be 5. >>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not Arenaria >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/07/arenaria/>, as it has 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>> styles. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To me it appears to be Cerastium >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/14/cerastium/>, which has >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 or 5 styles. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I checked in comparative images at Cerastium >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/14/cerastium/> and species >>>>>>>>>>>>> listed in Flora of Pakistan >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=106150> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> with keys and Checklist of Nepal >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=106150>, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> but could not find a match. >>>>>>>>>>>>> What are the species listed in your area? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 May 2021 at 22:48, Shakir ahmad (Ammatuer >>>>>>>>>>>>> Taxonomist) <saadiks...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please have look on these small incision on petals. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location pampore jammu and kashmir >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to indiantreepi...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAKSJquEibJ4ZhabNJZfiiP6PCMZv4hQKi98aS00xVOYYRN8ZMg%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAKSJquEibJ4ZhabNJZfiiP6PCMZv4hQKi98aS00xVOYYRN8ZMg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to indiantreepi...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/98fab531-fa7a-44ca-bcc5-f23b32fa9899n%40googlegroups.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/98fab531-fa7a-44ca-bcc5-f23b32fa9899n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to indiantreepi...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAKSJquGYa4oyVfnFxETMZ0Ah7Kw4BgAm3OxFNKYXhA5H%2BRqkaA%40mail.gmail.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAKSJquGYa4oyVfnFxETMZ0Ah7Kw4BgAm3OxFNKYXhA5H%2BRqkaA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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