As* V.locusta *has been reported only from Srinagar first by Gurcharan ji and then by me in my post and as it is a popular salad in Europe I think that plants in Srinagar could have been introduced by British officers during British rule especially those with a taste for French cuisine where it is served under the name *Doucette *and* Raiponce.* Regards Taffazull
On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 12:39:18 PM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg wrote: > Surprising *Valerianella locusta *is not listed in the area as per POWO > <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:859937-1> and > CoL > <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/annual-checklist/2019/details/species/id/59b0f85b5f385d6a4372a523c76aa621> > . > However, BSI > <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/speciesList_PCL.action?resultType=genusWise&parent_Id=29083&parent_Name=valerianella> > > lists this species along with 3 others. > Pl. see and analyse. > > > On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 at 15:18, taffa...@gmail.com <taffa...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Am attaching an1885 illustration of the plant which is in the public >> domain and which is very helpful. >> *Attribution:* Public Domain, >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=8666 >> Regards >> Taffazull >> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 3:15:49 PM UTC+5:30 taffa...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >>> Some interesting facts from a Wikipedia article about this herb: >>> Its common European names are *lamb's lettuce, common cornsalad, *or >>> simply *cornsalad, mâche (/mɑːʃ/), fetticus, feldsalat, nut lettuce, >>> field salad and valerian salad. *In restaurants that feature *French >>> cuisine*, it may be called *doucette *or *raiponce*.In some areas in >>> Germany it is called *Rapunzel *and is the origin of the long haired >>> lady's name in the famous fairy tale. >>> Regarding its use as a vegetable it is written that: >>> "*It has been eaten in Britain for centuries and appears in John >>> Gerard's Herbal of 1597. It was grown commercially in London from the late >>> 18th or early 19th century and appeared on markets as a winter vegetable, >>> but it only became available in modern supermarkets there in the 1980s. >>> American president Thomas Jefferson cultivated mâche at his home.*" >>> Maybe the plants were introduced in Srinagar during British rule. >>> Its cultivation and promotion as an exotic vegetable can be an >>> attractive proposition for enterprising entrepreneurs in Kashmir. >>> Regards >>> Taffazull >>> >>> On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 11:28:32 AM UTC+5:30 Shakir Ahmad wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you Gurcharan ji!! >>>> >>>> On Fri, 23 Jun, 2023, 10:47 am taffa...@gmail.com, <taffa...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Gurcharan ji, >>>>> Thanks for the correct I.D. and the attached paper. >>>>> It is surely * Valerianella locusta *and not valerian. >>>>> Hope the photos add to efloraofindia collection as I did not find any >>>>> photos there. >>>>> The calyx lobes in ripe fruit(photo attached) have a single tooth. >>>>> With sincere regards >>>>> Taffazull >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 8:22:29 AM UTC+5:30 Gurcharan Singh wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Not Valeriana rather Valerianella. Check for V. locusta, I had >>>>>> recorded it as new record in India in 1974, paper attached. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 10:12:39 AM UTC+5:30 >>>>>> taffa...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Shakir ji, >>>>>>> Thanks for the ID. >>>>>>> However according to Wikipedia Valerians have trifoliate pinnate >>>>>>> leaves with serrated edges but here leaves are entire .Veins are not >>>>>>> prominent (very different from leaves in *V.himalayana *photo at >>>>>>> EFI). Also branching appears to be dichotomous (See attached >>>>>>> photo).Also >>>>>>> altitude of Rawathpora is about1600 meters while *V.himalayana >>>>>>> *according >>>>>>> to FOP occurs at 3000-5000m asl. Perhaps identification of the >>>>>>> species would bring more clarity. >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 10:30:00 PM UTC+5:30 Shakir Ahmad wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Valeriana sp. >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 4:14:41 PM UTC+5:30 taffa...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear members, >>>>>>>>> Please help ID this herb which has some peculiar features as >>>>>>>>> mentioned below: >>>>>>>>> Habitat: Edge of lawn in Rawathpora Srinagar. Almost all photos >>>>>>>>> were taken in either the last week of April or first half of May >>>>>>>>> Habit : Herb with green stem 10-15 cm high. L eaves opposite about >>>>>>>>> 5-6mm broad X 12 -15mm long. >>>>>>>>> Branching cymose. Inflorescence is compact and probably cymose >>>>>>>>> Some peculiar features: >>>>>>>>> 1.Calyx gamosepalous with five lobes three narrow 0.5mmX 1.5mm and >>>>>>>>> two broad 0.5mm X1.5 mm. The calyx is fused with the ovary and can >>>>>>>>> not be >>>>>>>>> separated from it. The lobes can be clearly seen in fruit( See photo >>>>>>>>> 5 and >>>>>>>>> photo8). >>>>>>>>> 2.The Corolla has 5 lobes 0.5mm long and Corolla Tube is 1.5mm >>>>>>>>> long and becomes very narrow at the bottom and seems to be attached >>>>>>>>> directly to upper part of the ovary . In my limited experience this >>>>>>>>> is the >>>>>>>>> first time I have seen a corolla tube attached to the upper part of >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> ovary.( (See photo 4,photo 5 and photo 6) >>>>>>>>> 3. The style is so thin and transparent that it is barely visible >>>>>>>>> but when see seen with a microscope(X50) is clearly trifid (See photo >>>>>>>>> 7). >>>>>>>>> The filaments of the 5 stamens are also very thin, transparent and >>>>>>>>> barely >>>>>>>>> visible. Because of the narrowness of the corolla tube in the lower >>>>>>>>> portion >>>>>>>>> I could not ascertain the point of attachment of the stamens. >>>>>>>>> The fruit seems to contain a single seed.(see photo 9) >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>>> Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/fjWj_Eqav0U/unsubscribe >>>>> . >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>> indiantreepi...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/2f6a5f48-b5e9-411c-89f1-999833416e6fn%40googlegroups.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/2f6a5f48-b5e9-411c-89f1-999833416e6fn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "eFloraofIndia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to indiantreepi...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/8df45ee8-6727-41da-b4cc-c57a5e48f448n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/8df45ee8-6727-41da-b4cc-c57a5e48f448n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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