Dear Mahadeswara ji,
I did not pay attention to ಕೋವೆ in your suggestion.

*ಕೋವೆ* =

   1. the creeping plant Galedupa arborea.
   2. its flower.
   3. the creeper Coccinia cordifolia ( = C. indica, = Bryonia grandis, =
   Momordica monadelpha) of Cucurbitaceae family.
   4. the climbing shrub Bryonia epigea of Cucurbitaceae family.

and few more meanings, not relevant to plants.

*ಕೂವೆ* =

   1. the plant Curcuma angustifolia of Zingiberaceae family, with large
   leaves, white flowers, and starchy roots; East Indian arrowroot.
   2. the plant Maranta arundinaceae of Marantaceae family.

and a few more meanings.


In the reference:
Subrahmanya, Prasad K - Exploration and elucidation of traditional
medicinal plants of erstwhile Tulunadu and surrounding area of Kerala and
Karnataka
<http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/41951/10/10_chapter%204.pdf>
- Shodhganga
... *neeru koove = water arrowroot*, named so due to its aquatic habit and
resemblance with *Maranta* and *Curcuma* species.

Let us therefore go with *ನೀರ್ **ಕೂವೆ* for neeru koove.

Regards.
Dinesh



On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 10:31 AM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Many thanks, dear Mahadewara ji, for validating the Kannada names.
>
> I depend on https://alar.ink/ for checking possibilities of any given
> names in Kannada.
>
> I will use *ನೀರ್ ಕೋವೆ* for neer kove as you have pointed out.
>
> About *ಕೋಮನ* and *ಕೋಮಣ* ...
> at https://alar.ink/ ... only the latter (*ಕೋಮಣ*) is listed, with the
> meaning as loin cloth. *ಕೋಮನ* is not listed.
> Searching *ಕೋಮನ* and *ಕೋಮಣ* in Google, *ಕೋಮನ* does not give relevant
> results, while *ಕೋಮಣ *does.
>
> I think we will go with *ಕೋಮಣ*.
> What are your thoughts?
>
> Regards.
> Dinesh
>
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 9:56 AM Mahadeswara <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Google translation is not perfect  Dinesh ji.  More often than not,  it
>> is  subject to correction by those who know Kannada.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 9:47:03 AM UTC+5:30 M Swamy wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Dinesh ji,
>>> Very nice compilation .
>>> I think you have used FRLHT words i.e. *koomana gedde, neer kove*
>>> for Kannada transliteration / translation using google translation link.
>>>  In my view the  words *'**ಕೋಮನ ಗೆಡ್ಡೆ , ನೀರ್ ಕೋವೆ'  *are   more
>>> appropriate.   Nevertheless, it is left to your discretion to  use these
>>> words or retain those in your posting.
>>> All the best,
>>> Thanks & Regards,
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 8:58 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> *Lagenandra ovata* (L.) Thwaites
>>>> [image: Lagenandra ovata (L.) Thwaites]
>>>>
>>>> ¿ *lag-en-AN-druh* ? -- from the Greek *lagenos* (flask) and *andros*
>>>> (man) ... Dave's Botanary <http://davesgarden.com/guides/botanary/>
>>>> *oh-VAY-tuh* -- ovate in shape ... Dave's Botanary
>>>> <http://davesgarden.com/guides/botanary/search.php?search_text=ovata>
>>>>
>>>> *commonly known as*: Malayan sword • *Kannada*: ಕೋಮಣ ಗೆಡ್ಡೆ komana
>>>> gedde, ನೀರ ಕೂವೆ neera koove • *Malayalam*: അണ്ടവാഴ andavaazha,
>>>> കരിന്പോള karinpola • *Marathi*: वत्सनाभ vatsanabh • *Sanskrit*:
>>>> हल्लकम् hallakam • *Tulu*: ನಿರ್ಕೂವೆ neerkoove
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *botanical names*: *Lagenandra ovata* (L.) Thwaites ... *homotypic
>>>> synonyms*: *Arisarum ovatum* (L.) Raf. • *Arum ovatum* L. • *Caladium
>>>> ovatum* (L.) Vent. • *Cryptocoryne ovata* (L.) Schott ... *heterotypic
>>>> synonyms*: *Lagenandra insignis* Trimen ... POWO
>>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/>
>>>> Bibliography / etymology
>>>> Links listed as references in the notes below, may not remain valid
>>>> permanently. Portals / websites have a tendency to re-organize / revise
>>>> their content, leading to change in URLs of pages in their site. Some sites
>>>> may even close down at their own will.
>>>> ~~~~~ ENGLISH ~~~~~
>>>> *Malayan sword*
>>>>
>>>>    - Flowers of India
>>>>    <https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Malayan%20Sword.html>
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~ KANNADA ~~~~~
>>>> *ಕೋಮಣ ಗೆಡ್ಡೆ komana gedde*
>>>>
>>>>    - FRLHT's ENVIS Centre on Medicinal Plants
>>>>    
>>>> <https://envis.frlht.org/plantdetails/077c26a90b938702104da0f6d7950654/541b3a8ccc4a1755d3c3727666a17a64>
>>>>
>>>> *ನೀರ ಕೂವೆ neera koove*
>>>>
>>>>    - FRLHT's ENVIS Centre on Medicinal Plants
>>>>    
>>>> <https://envis.frlht.org/plantdetails/077c26a90b938702104da0f6d7950654/541b3a8ccc4a1755d3c3727666a17a64>
>>>>    - Subrahmanya, Prasad K - Exploration and elucidation of
>>>>    traditional medicinal plants of erstwhile Tulunadu and surrounding area 
>>>> of
>>>>    Kerala and Karnataka
>>>>    
>>>> <http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/41951/10/10_chapter%204.pdf>
>>>>    - Shodhganga ... ನೀರ ಕೂವೆ neera koove = water arrowroot, named so
>>>>    due to its aquatic habit and resemblance with *Maranta* and
>>>>    *Curcuma* species.
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~ MALAYALAM ~~~~~
>>>> *അണ്ടവാഴ andavaazha*
>>>>
>>>>    - Subrahmanya, Prasad K - Exploration and elucidation of
>>>>    traditional medicinal plants of erstwhile Tulunadu and surrounding area 
>>>> of
>>>>    Kerala and Karnataka
>>>>    
>>>> <http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/41951/10/10_chapter%204.pdf>
>>>>    - Shodhganga
>>>>
>>>> *കരിന്പോള karinpola*
>>>>
>>>>    - FRLHT's ENVIS Centre on Medicinal Plants
>>>>    
>>>> <https://envis.frlht.org/plantdetails/077c26a90b938702104da0f6d7950654/541b3a8ccc4a1755d3c3727666a17a64>
>>>>    - for *Caladium ovatum* (L.) Vent. ... A Malayalam and English
>>>>    dictionary <https://dsal.uchicago.edu/dictionaries/gundert/> by
>>>>    Hermann Gundert
>>>>    - Subrahmanya, Prasad K - Exploration and elucidation of
>>>>    traditional medicinal plants of erstwhile Tulunadu and surrounding area 
>>>> of
>>>>    Kerala and Karnataka
>>>>    
>>>> <http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/41951/10/10_chapter%204.pdf>
>>>>    - Shodhganga
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~ MARATHI ~~~~~
>>>> *वत्सनाभ vatsanabh*
>>>>
>>>>    - *Further Flowers of Sahyadri* by Shrikant Ingalhalikar, the
>>>>    second among the three field guides to identify plants of northern 
>>>> Western
>>>>    Ghats of India, based on flowers
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~ SANSKRIT ~~~~~
>>>> *हल्लकम् hallakam*
>>>>
>>>>    - FRLHT's ENVIS Centre on Medicinal Plants
>>>>    
>>>> <https://envis.frlht.org/plantdetails/077c26a90b938702104da0f6d7950654/541b3a8ccc4a1755d3c3727666a17a64>
>>>>    - हल्लकम् hallakam = the red lotus ... word entry found in ॥
>>>>    विकिशब्दकोशः॥
>>>>    
>>>> <https://sa.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%96%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%83%E0%A4%B7%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A0%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%8D>
>>>>    स्वतन्त्रः संस्कृतशब्दकोशः ... but how does *Lagenandra ovata* (L.)
>>>>    Thwaites, connect with the "red lotus" ?
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~ TULU ~~~~~
>>>> *ನಿರ್ಕೂವೆ neerkoove*
>>>>
>>>>    - Subrahmanya, Prasad K - Exploration and elucidation of
>>>>    traditional medicinal plants of erstwhile Tulunadu and surrounding area 
>>>> of
>>>>    Kerala and Karnataka
>>>>    
>>>> <http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/41951/10/10_chapter%204.pdf>
>>>>    - Shodhganga ... ನಿರ್ಕೂವೆ neerkoove = water arrowroot, named so due
>>>>    to its aquatic habit and resemblance with *Maranta* and *Curcuma*
>>>>    species.
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~ DISTRIBUTION in States and Union Territories of India ~~~~~
>>>> ***Goa, Karnataka, Kerala, Maharashtra, ***Tamil Nadu
>>>>
>>>>    - Karnataka Biodiversity Board, 2019. FLORA OF KARNATAKA, A
>>>>    Checklist, Volume – 2: Gymnosperms and Angiosperms.
>>>>    
>>>> <https://kbb.karnataka.gov.in/storage/pdf-files/Flora%20of%20Karnataka/Part%202.pdf>
>>>>    1 - 1002 (Published by Karnataka Biodiversity Board)
>>>>    - Hassler, Michael (2004 - 2023): World Plants. Synonymic Checklist
>>>>    and Distribution of the World Flora.
>>>>    
>>>> <https://www.worldplants.de/world-plants-complete-list/complete-plant-list#plantUid-32197>
>>>>    Version 16.1; last update June 16th, 2023. Last accessed 05/07/2023.
>>>>
>>>> *** no given name / no name found, in the regional language(s) of the
>>>> state
>>>> ~~~~~ x ~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Names compiled / updated at
>>>> https://dineshvalke.blogspot.com/2023/07/lagenandra-ovata-l-thwaites.html
>>>>
>>>> Regards.
>>>> Dinesh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 8:56 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Names compiled / updated at
>>>>> https://dineshvalke.blogspot.com/2023/07/lagenandra-ovata-l-thwaites.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards.
>>>>> Dinesh
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, 14 May 2017 at 17:42:14 UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, Dinesh ji
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 13 May 2017 11:57 a.m., "Dinesh Valke" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Names update ...
>>>>>>>  • *Kannada*: ¿ ಕೋಮಣ
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kannada/komana-gedde-komana-gedde>
>>>>>>>  ? ಗೆಡ್ಡೆ komana gedde
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kannada/komana-gedde-komana-gedde>
>>>>>>> , ನೀರ ಕೂವೆ neera koove
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kannada/nira-kove-neera-kove>
>>>>>>>  ...
>>>>>>> typo corrected
>>>>>>>  • *Sanskrit*: हल्लकम् hallakam
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/sanskrit/hallakam-hallakam>
>>>>>>>  • *Tulu*: ನಿರ್ಕೂವೆ neerkoove
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/tulu/nirkuve-neerkoove>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>> Dinesh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, December 29, 2012 at 7:45:16 PM UTC+5:30, Dinesh Valke
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you very much Balkar ji.
>>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>>> Dinesh
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Balkar Singh <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nice Shot Dinesh Ji
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> via Species
>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species>‎
>>>>>>>>>> > ‎L
>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species/l>‎
>>>>>>>>>> > ‎
>>>>>>>>>> *Lagenandra ovata* (L.) Thwaites ... *family*: Araceae
>>>>>>>>>> [image: Lagenandra ovata (L.) Thwaites]
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/8283177635/>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [image: Flowers of India] <http://www.flowersofindia.net/> [image:
>>>>>>>>>> Discussions at efloraofindia]
>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups=#%21topicsearchin/indiantreepix/Lagenandra%20ovata>
>>>>>>>>>>  [image: more views in flickr]
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Lagenandraovata&m=tags&z=m> [image:
>>>>>>>>>> more views on Google Earth]
>>>>>>>>>> <http://api.flickr.com/services/feeds/geo/india/&tags=Lagenandraovata&format=kml_nl>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ¿ *lag-en-AN-druh* ? -- from the Greek *lagenos* (flask) and
>>>>>>>>>> *andros* (man)
>>>>>>>>>> *oh-VAY-tuh* -- ovate in shape ... Dave's Botanary
>>>>>>>>>> <http://davesgarden.com/guides/botanary/search.php?search_text=ovata>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *commonly known as*: Malayan sword
>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/english/malayan-sword>
>>>>>>>>>> • *Kannada*: ¿ ಕೋಮಣ
>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kannada/komana-gedde-komana-gedde>
>>>>>>>>>> ? ಗೆಡ್ಡೆ komana gedde
>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kannada/komana-gedde-komana-gedde>,
>>>>>>>>>> ನೀರ ಕೋವೆ neera kove
>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kannada/nira-kove-neera-kove>
>>>>>>>>>> • *Malayalam*: കരിന്പോള karinpeala
>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/malayalam/karinpeala-karinpeala>
>>>>>>>>>> • *Marathi*: वत्सनाभ vatsanabh
>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/marathi/vatsanabha-vatsanabh>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *botanical names*: *Lagenandra ovata* (L.) Thwaites ...
>>>>>>>>>> *synonyms*: *Arisarum ovatum* (L.) Raf. • *Arum ovatum* L. • 
>>>>>>>>>> *Caladium
>>>>>>>>>> ovatum* (L.) Vent. • *Cryptocoryne ovata* (L.) Schott • *Lagenandra
>>>>>>>>>> insignis* Trimen ... *The Plant List* (2010). Version 1
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-107217>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
>>>>>>>>>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
>>>>>>>>>> Photographed along Mattighatta Road, Karnataka on 15 DEC 12
>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks to Shrikant ji for the ID.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>>>>> Dinesh
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dr Balkar Singh
>>>>>>>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology &
>>>>>>>>> Horticulture Incharge
>>>>>>>>> Arya P G College, Panipat
>>>>>>>>> Haryana-132103
>>>>>>>>> 09416262964
>>>>>>>>>
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