Dear Dinesh ji, Thanks for your detailed info on ಬಿಳಿ ಹಲಸು bili halasu. Excellent analysis. Thanks again for enlightening me on the subject. Regards, M.Swamy
On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 10:01 AM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks very much, dear Mahadeswara ji, for validating the Kannada names. > I agree that *ಬಲ್ಪಾಲೆ balpaale* is more appropriate than *ಬಲ್ಬಲೆ balpale* > . Will make the change shortly. > > About *ಬಿಳಿ ಹಲಸು bili halasu* literally meaning *white jack* ... this > name is more in context of a trade of wood / timber. > *Artocarpus hirsutus* = hebbalasu ಹೆಬ್ಬಲಸು = hebba + halasu = wild jack > tree > Here is one link: Forests of Karnataka - A Panaromic View > <https://books.google.co.in/books?id=F0mQDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT45&lpg=PT45&dq=bili+hebbalasu&source=bl&ots=ytqEofY-wE&sig=ACfU3U3fJUu9HB15SgW9thGMqaFz311wDg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjvlNLqtP6AAxWB1zgGHYliDf44FBDoAXoECAQQAw#v=onepage&q=bili%20hebbalasu&f=false> > ... where we find *Lophopetalum wightianum* being given a name as *ಬಿಳಿ > ಹೆಬ್ಬಲಸು bili hebbalasu*. > It is something to do with similarity in nature of wood. > > Regards. > Dinesh > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 5:33 PM M Swamy <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Dear Dinesh ji, >> This is regarding the kannada name *ಬಲ್ಬಲೆ balpale. * In my view *ಬಲ್ಪಾಲೆ >> balpaale* ( as mentioned by ... Subrahmanya, Prasad K - Exploration and >> elucidation of traditional medicinal plants of erstwhile Tulunadu and >> <http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/41951/10/10_chapter%204.pdf> >> surrounding area of Kerala and Karnataka >> <http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/41951/10/10_chapter%204.pdf> >> - >> Shodhganga ) is more appropriate than *'**ಬಲ್ಬಲೆ balpale'.* *Paale >> or Paala * refers to *Writhtia tinctoria* in Kannada. * 'Paale or >> pala' also written as 'pala or pale' *refers to the white milky >> exude. Even ಬಿಳಿ ಹಲಸು bili halasu may not be appropriate as this tree >> or fruit is in no way related to Halasu (Jackfruit tree) . >> Nevertheless, the choice is yours to retain, add or delete the names >> suggested by me. >> Thanks & Regards, >> On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 1:27 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> *Lophopetalum wightianum* Arn. >>> [image: Lophopetalum wightianum Arn.] >>> >>> ¿ *lo-foh-PET-al-um* ? -- Greek: *lophos* (crest), and *petalon* >>> (petal) ... Dave's Botanary <http://davesgarden.com/guides/botanary/> >>> ¿ *wight-ee-AY-num* ? -- named for Robert Wight, Scottish surgeon & >>> botanist in India ... Dave's Botanary >>> <http://davesgarden.com/guides/botanary/search.php?search_text=wightii> >>> >>> *commonly known as*: Wight's crest-petal • *Coorgi*: ಪಾಲ್ಮನಿ paalmani • >>> *Hindi*: बनाती banati • *Kannada*: ಬಲ್ಬಲೆ balpale, ಬನಾಟೆ banaate, >>> ಬೌರಾಲಪಾಲೆ bauralapaale, ಬಿಳಿ ಹಲಸು bili halasu, ಪಾಲ್ಮನಿ paalmani • >>> *Konkani*: बोलपली bolpali • *Malayalam*: വെമ്പാല vembala, വെണ്കടവം >>> venkatavam, വെങ്കൊട്ട venkotta • *Marathi*: बलफळे balphale, बनाती >>> banati • *Nepali*: बलपले balapale • *Tamil*: காருக்கா karukka, வெள்ள >>> பலா vella pala, வெள்ளபோலம் vellapolam, வெண்கடவன் venkatavan, வென்கோட்டா >>> venkotta, வெண்குதம் venkutam • *Tulu*: ಬೊಲ್ಪಾಲೆ bolpaale >>> >>> >>> *botanical names*: *Lophopetalum wightianum* Arn. ... *heterotypic >>> synonyms*: *Lophopetalum fimbriatum* Wight ... and more at POWO >>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/> >>> Bibliography / etymology >>> Links listed as references in the notes below, may not remain valid >>> permanently. Portals / websites have a tendency to re-organize / revise >>> their content, leading to change in URLs of pages in their site. Some sites >>> may even close down at their own will. >>> ~~~~~ ENGLISH ~~~~~ >>> *Wight's crest-petal* >>> >>> - for want of name, name coined by Flowers of India >>> >>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Wight%27s%20Crest-Petal.html> >>> >>> ~~~~~ COORGI (Kodava takk)~~~~~ >>> *ಪಾಲ್ಮನಿ paalmani* >>> >>> - *The Useful Plants of India* by NISCAIR >>> >>> ~~~~~ HINDI ~~~~~ >>> *बनाती banati* >>> >>> - भारतवाणी >>> >>> <https://bharatavani.in/bharatavani//hindi/dictionarysurf/?pageno=877&letter=1&did=228&language=English> >>> - भारतीय भाषाओं द्वारा ज्ञान >>> >>> ~~~~~ KANNADA ~~~~~ >>> *ಬಲ್ಬಲೆ balpale* >>> >>> - BIOTIK >>> <http://www.biotik.org/india/species/l/lophwigh/lophwigh_ka.html> >>> (Biodiversity Informatics and co-operation in Taxonomy for Interactive >>> shared Knowledge base) >>> - or *ಬಲ್ಪಾಲೆ balpaale* ... Subrahmanya, Prasad K - Exploration and >>> elucidation of traditional medicinal plants of erstwhile Tulunadu and >>> surrounding area of Kerala and Karnataka >>> >>> <http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/41951/10/10_chapter%204.pdf> >>> - Shodhganga >>> - or *ಬೆಲ್ಪಾಲೆ belpaale* ... Alar - an authoritative Kannada-English >>> dictionary corpus >>> >>> <https://alar.ink/dictionary/kannada/english/%E0%B2%AC%E0%B3%86%E0%B2%B2%E0%B3%8D%E0%B2%AA%E0%B2%BE%E0%B2%B2%E0%B3%86> >>> created by V. Krishna >>> >>> *ಬನಾಟೆ banaate* >>> >>> - Alar - an authoritative Kannada-English dictionary corpus >>> >>> <https://alar.ink/dictionary/kannada/english/%E0%B2%AC%E0%B2%A8%E0%B2%BE%E0%B2%9F%E0%B3%86> >>> created by V. Krishna >>> - Karnataka Biodiversity Board, 2019. FLORA OF KARNATAKA, A >>> Checklist, Volume – 2: Gymnosperms and Angiosperms. >>> >>> <https://kbb.karnataka.gov.in/storage/pdf-files/Flora%20of%20Karnataka/Part%201.pdf> >>> 1 - 1002 (Published by Karnataka Biodiversity Board) >>> >>> *ಬೌರಾಲಪಾಲೆ bauralapaale* >>> >>> - BIOTIK >>> <http://www.biotik.org/india/species/l/lophwigh/lophwigh_ka.html> >>> (Biodiversity Informatics and co-operation in Taxonomy for Interactive >>> shared Knowledge base) >>> - or *ಬೋರಲುಪಾಲೆ boralupaale* ... Alar - an authoritative >>> Kannada-English dictionary corpus >>> >>> <https://alar.ink/dictionary/kannada/english/%E0%B2%AC%E0%B3%8B%E0%B2%B0%E0%B2%B2%E0%B3%81%E0%B2%AA%E0%B2%BE%E0%B2%B2%E0%B3%86> >>> created by V. Krishna >>> - or *ಬೋರಲುಪಾಲೆ boralupaale* ... Karnataka Biodiversity Board, 2019. >>> FLORA >>> OF KARNATAKA, A Checklist, Volume – 2: Gymnosperms and Angiosperms. >>> >>> <https://kbb.karnataka.gov.in/storage/pdf-files/Flora%20of%20Karnataka/Part%201.pdf> >>> 1 - 1002 (Published by Karnataka Biodiversity Board) >>> >>> *ಬಿಳಿ ಹಲಸು bili halasu* >>> >>> - Subrahmanya, Prasad K - Exploration and elucidation of traditional >>> medicinal plants of erstwhile Tulunadu and surrounding area of Kerala and >>> Karnataka >>> >>> <http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/41951/10/10_chapter%204.pdf> >>> - Shodhganga >>> >>> *ಪಾಲ್ಮನಿ paalmani* >>> >>> - BIOTIK >>> <http://www.biotik.org/india/species/l/lophwigh/lophwigh_ka.html> >>> (Biodiversity Informatics and co-operation in Taxonomy for Interactive >>> shared Knowledge base) >>> - Alar - an authoritative Kannada-English dictionary corpus >>> >>> <https://alar.ink/dictionary/kannada/english/%E0%B2%AA%E0%B2%BE%E0%B2%B2%E0%B3%8D%E0%B2%AE%E0%B2%A8%E0%B2%BF> >>> created by V. Krishna >>> >>> ~~~~~ KONKANI ~~~~~ >>> *बोलपली bolpali* >>> >>> - Enumeration of plants from Gomantak India >>> >>> <http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/jspui/bitstream/10603/153789/10/09_chapter%205.pdf> >>> with a note on botanical excursions to the Castlerock area by V D Vartak >>> >>> ~~~~~ MALAYALAM ~~~~~ >>> *വെമ്പാല vembala, വെണ്കടവം venkatavam, വെങ്കൊട്ട venkotta* >>> >>> - BIOTIK >>> <http://www.biotik.org/india/species/l/lophwigh/lophwigh_ma.html> >>> (Biodiversity Informatics and co-operation in Taxonomy for Interactive >>> shared Knowledge base) >>> >>> ~~~~~ MARATHI ~~~~~ >>> *बलफळे balphale, बनाती banati* >>> >>> - मराठी विश्वकोश <https://vishwakosh.marathi.gov.in/25088/> >>> - or *बल्पले balpale* ... *Further Flowers of Sahyadri* by Shrikant >>> Ingalhalikar, the second among the three field guides to identify plants >>> of >>> northern Western Ghats of India, based on flowers >>> - or *बालपाले balpale* ... महाराष्ट्रातील वनस्पतीशास्त्र आणि वनसंपदा >>> >>> <https://gazetteers.maharashtra.gov.in/cultural.maharashtra.gov.in/english/gazetteer/Vansampada/index1.html> >>> >>> ~~~~~ NEPALI ~~~~~ >>> *बलपले balapale* >>> >>> - Many thanks to Saroj Kumar Kasaju for help with this name ... >>> efloraofindia >>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/JY9dXOAKlSc/m/nC2XHaaWAAAJ> >>> >>> ~~~~~ TAMIL ~~~~~ >>> *காருக்கா karukka, வெள்ள பலா vella pala, வெள்ளபோலம் vellapolam, >>> வெண்கடவன் venkatavan, வென்கோட்டா venkotta, வெண்குதம் venkutam* >>> >>> - BIOTIK >>> <http://www.biotik.org/india/species/l/lophwigh/lophwigh_ta.html> >>> (Biodiversity Informatics and co-operation in Taxonomy for Interactive >>> shared Knowledge base) >>> >>> ~~~~~ TULU ~~~~~ >>> *ಬೊಲ್ಪಾಲೆ bolpaale* >>> >>> - Subrahmanya, Prasad K - Exploration and elucidation of traditional >>> medicinal plants of erstwhile Tulunadu and surrounding area of Kerala and >>> Karnataka >>> >>> <http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/41951/10/10_chapter%204.pdf> >>> - Shodhganga >>> >>> ~~~~~ DISTRIBUTION in INDIA ~~~~~ >>> ***Arunachal Pradesh, ***Assam, Goa, Karnataka, Kerala, Maharashtra, >>> ***Meghalaya, >>> Sikkim, Tamil Nadu, Uttar Pradesh >>> >>> - Enumeration of plants from Gomantak India >>> >>> <http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/jspui/bitstream/10603/153789/10/09_chapter%205.pdf> >>> with a note on botanical excursions to the Castlerock area by V D Vartak >>> - Karnataka Biodiversity Board, 2019. FLORA OF KARNATAKA, A >>> Checklist, Volume – 2: Gymnosperms and Angiosperms. >>> >>> <https://kbb.karnataka.gov.in/storage/pdf-files/Flora%20of%20Karnataka/Part%201.pdf> >>> 1 - 1002 (Published by Karnataka Biodiversity Board) >>> - for *Lophopetalum fimbriatum* Wight ... Botanical Survey of India >>> - INDIAN WOODS - their identification, properties and uses >>> >>> <https://bsi.gov.in/uploads/userfiles/file/Rare%20Books/Indian%20Woods%20Vol.%202.pdf> >>> - VOLUME II >>> - Hassler, Michael (2004 - 2023): World Plants. Synonymic Checklist >>> and Distribution of the World Flora. >>> >>> <https://www.worldplants.de/world-plants-complete-list/complete-plant-list> >>> Version 16.3; last update Aug. 16th, 2023. Last accessed 24/08/2023. >>> >>> *** no given name / no name found, in the regional language(s) of the >>> state >>> ~~~~~ x ~~~~~ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Names compiled / updated at >>> https://dineshvalke.blogspot.com/2023/08/lophopetalum-wightianum-arn.html >>> >>> Regards. >>> Dinesh >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 1:23 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Names compiled / updated at >>>> https://dineshvalke.blogspot.com/2023/08/lophopetalum-wightianum-arn.html >>>> >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> On Sunday, 30 December 2012 at 19:47:34 UTC+5:30 Ushadi wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dinesh >>>>> what an unusual petal form, >>>>> and color >>>>> >>>>> nice close up >>>>> >>>>> usha di >>>>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Satish Phadke <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Gorgeous Catch Dinesh Ji >>>>>> I can see the typical structure of Celastraceae flowers >>>>>> >>>>>> Dr Satish Phadke >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Many many thanks Giby ji. Have corrected my notes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Such mistakes may occur in future ! Why ? because this happens when >>>>>>> I have only the Malayalam word available, without the English >>>>>>> transcribed >>>>>>> word(s). Then I depend on Google's transliteration to fetch the English >>>>>>> (which does not take account of native accent). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Giby ji and dear friends, whenever you come across such errors, do >>>>>>> please point them to me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 9:09 PM, Giby Kuriakose < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is Venkotta and not venkeatta >>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/malayalam/venkeatta-venkeatta> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> Giby >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Usha di >>>>> =========== >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>> Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/iR-u7lBDYe0/unsubscribe >>>> . >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/270b15e3-f50d-46b9-8fa1-d27724addf75n%40googlegroups.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/270b15e3-f50d-46b9-8fa1-d27724addf75n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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