Thanks very much, Gurcharan ji, for the appreciation.
Regards.
Dinesh

On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 9:00 AM Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:

> Great contribution Dinesh ji
>
> On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 9:35:51 AM UTC+5:30 Mahadeswara wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Dear Dinesh ji,
>> Thanks for your detailed info on ಬಿಳಿ ಹಲಸು bili halasu.  Excellent
>> analysis.  Thanks again for enlightening me on the subject.
>>  Regards,
>> M.Swamy
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 10:01 AM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks very much, dear Mahadeswara ji, for validating the Kannada names.
>>> I agree that  *ಬಲ್ಪಾಲೆ balpaale* is more appropriate than *ಬಲ್ಬಲೆ
>>> balpale* . Will make the change shortly.
>>>
>>> About *ಬಿಳಿ ಹಲಸು bili halasu* literally meaning *white jack* ... this
>>> name is more in context of a trade of wood / timber.
>>> *Artocarpus hirsutus* = hebbalasu ಹೆಬ್ಬಲಸು = hebba + halasu = wild jack
>>> tree
>>> Here is one link: Forests of Karnataka - A Panaromic View
>>> <https://books.google.co.in/books?id=F0mQDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT45&lpg=PT45&dq=bili+hebbalasu&source=bl&ots=ytqEofY-wE&sig=ACfU3U3fJUu9HB15SgW9thGMqaFz311wDg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjvlNLqtP6AAxWB1zgGHYliDf44FBDoAXoECAQQAw#v=onepage&q=bili%20hebbalasu&f=false>
>>> ... where we find *Lophopetalum wightianum* being given a name as *ಬಿಳಿ
>>> ಹೆಬ್ಬಲಸು bili hebbalasu*.
>>> It is something to do with similarity in nature of wood.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>> Dinesh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 5:33 PM M Swamy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Dear Dinesh ji,
>>>> This is regarding the kannada name *ಬಲ್ಬಲೆ balpale.   * In my view   
>>>> *ಬಲ್ಪಾಲೆ
>>>> balpaale* ( as mentioned by  ... Subrahmanya, Prasad K - Exploration
>>>> and elucidation of traditional medicinal plants of erstwhile Tulunadu and
>>>> <http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/41951/10/10_chapter%204.pdf>
>>>>  surrounding area of Kerala and Karnataka
>>>> <http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/41951/10/10_chapter%204.pdf>
>>>>  -
>>>> Shodhganga  )   is more appropriate than  *'**ಬಲ್ಬಲೆ balpale'.*  *Paale
>>>> or Paala * refers to  *Writhtia tinctoria* in Kannada.  * 'Paale or
>>>> pala'  also written as 'pala or pale'  *refers to the white milky
>>>> exude.  Even ಬಿಳಿ ಹಲಸು bili halasu  may not be appropriate as this
>>>> tree or fruit  is in no way related to  Halasu  (Jackfruit tree) .
>>>> Nevertheless, the choice is yours to retain, add or delete the names
>>>> suggested by me.
>>>> Thanks & Regards,
>>>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 1:27 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> *Lophopetalum wightianum* Arn.
>>>>> [image: Lophopetalum wightianum Arn.]
>>>>>
>>>>> ¿ *lo-foh-PET-al-um* ? -- Greek: *lophos* (crest), and *petalon*
>>>>> (petal) ... Dave's Botanary <http://davesgarden.com/guides/botanary/>
>>>>> ¿ *wight-ee-AY-num* ? -- named for Robert Wight, Scottish surgeon &
>>>>> botanist in India ... Dave's Botanary
>>>>> <http://davesgarden.com/guides/botanary/search.php?search_text=wightii>
>>>>>
>>>>> *commonly known as*: Wight's crest-petal • *Coorgi*: ಪಾಲ್ಮನಿ paalmani
>>>>> • *Hindi*: बनाती banati • *Kannada*: ಬಲ್ಬಲೆ balpale, ಬನಾಟೆ banaate,
>>>>> ಬೌರಾಲಪಾಲೆ bauralapaale, ಬಿಳಿ ಹಲಸು bili halasu, ಪಾಲ್ಮನಿ paalmani •
>>>>> *Konkani*: बोलपली bolpali • *Malayalam*: വെമ്പാല vembala, വെണ്‍കടവം
>>>>> venkatavam, വെങ്കൊട്ട venkotta • *Marathi*: बलफळे balphale, बनाती
>>>>> banati • *Nepali*: बलपले balapale • *Tamil*: காருக்கா karukka, வெள்ள
>>>>> பலா vella pala, வெள்ளபோலம் vellapolam, வெண்கடவன் venkatavan, வென்கோட்டா
>>>>> venkotta, வெண்குதம் venkutam • *Tulu*: ಬೊಲ್ಪಾಲೆ bolpaale
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *botanical names*: *Lophopetalum wightianum* Arn. ... *heterotypic
>>>>> synonyms*: *Lophopetalum fimbriatum* Wight ... and more at POWO
>>>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/>
>>>>> Bibliography / etymology
>>>>> Links listed as references in the notes below, may not remain valid
>>>>> permanently. Portals / websites have a tendency to re-organize / revise
>>>>> their content, leading to change in URLs of pages in their site. Some 
>>>>> sites
>>>>> may even close down at their own will.
>>>>> ~~~~~ ENGLISH ~~~~~
>>>>> *Wight's crest-petal*
>>>>>
>>>>>    - for want of name, name coined by Flowers of India
>>>>>    
>>>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Wight%27s%20Crest-Petal.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> ~~~~~ COORGI (Kodava takk)~~~~~
>>>>> *ಪಾಲ್ಮನಿ paalmani*
>>>>>
>>>>>    - *The Useful Plants of India* by NISCAIR
>>>>>
>>>>> ~~~~~ HINDI ~~~~~
>>>>> *बनाती banati*
>>>>>
>>>>>    - भारतवाणी
>>>>>    
>>>>> <https://bharatavani.in/bharatavani//hindi/dictionarysurf/?pageno=877&letter=1&did=228&language=English>
>>>>>    - भारतीय भाषाओं द्वारा ज्ञान
>>>>>
>>>>> ~~~~~ KANNADA ~~~~~
>>>>> *ಬಲ್ಬಲೆ balpale*
>>>>>
>>>>>    - BIOTIK
>>>>>    <http://www.biotik.org/india/species/l/lophwigh/lophwigh_ka.html>
>>>>>    (Biodiversity Informatics and co-operation in Taxonomy for Interactive
>>>>>    shared Knowledge base)
>>>>>    - or *ಬಲ್ಪಾಲೆ balpaale* ... Subrahmanya, Prasad K - Exploration
>>>>>    and elucidation of traditional medicinal plants of erstwhile Tulunadu 
>>>>> and
>>>>>    surrounding area of Kerala and Karnataka
>>>>>    
>>>>> <http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/41951/10/10_chapter%204.pdf>
>>>>>    - Shodhganga
>>>>>    - or *ಬೆಲ್ಪಾಲೆ belpaale* ... Alar - an authoritative
>>>>>    Kannada-English dictionary corpus
>>>>>    
>>>>> <https://alar.ink/dictionary/kannada/english/%E0%B2%AC%E0%B3%86%E0%B2%B2%E0%B3%8D%E0%B2%AA%E0%B2%BE%E0%B2%B2%E0%B3%86>
>>>>>    created by V. Krishna
>>>>>
>>>>> *ಬನಾಟೆ banaate*
>>>>>
>>>>>    - Alar - an authoritative Kannada-English dictionary corpus
>>>>>    
>>>>> <https://alar.ink/dictionary/kannada/english/%E0%B2%AC%E0%B2%A8%E0%B2%BE%E0%B2%9F%E0%B3%86>
>>>>>    created by V. Krishna
>>>>>    - Karnataka Biodiversity Board, 2019. FLORA OF KARNATAKA, A
>>>>>    Checklist, Volume – 2: Gymnosperms and Angiosperms.
>>>>>    
>>>>> <https://kbb.karnataka.gov.in/storage/pdf-files/Flora%20of%20Karnataka/Part%201.pdf>
>>>>>    1 - 1002 (Published by Karnataka Biodiversity Board)
>>>>>
>>>>> *ಬೌರಾಲಪಾಲೆ bauralapaale*
>>>>>
>>>>>    - BIOTIK
>>>>>    <http://www.biotik.org/india/species/l/lophwigh/lophwigh_ka.html>
>>>>>    (Biodiversity Informatics and co-operation in Taxonomy for Interactive
>>>>>    shared Knowledge base)
>>>>>    - or *ಬೋರಲುಪಾಲೆ boralupaale* ... Alar - an authoritative
>>>>>    Kannada-English dictionary corpus
>>>>>    
>>>>> <https://alar.ink/dictionary/kannada/english/%E0%B2%AC%E0%B3%8B%E0%B2%B0%E0%B2%B2%E0%B3%81%E0%B2%AA%E0%B2%BE%E0%B2%B2%E0%B3%86>
>>>>>    created by V. Krishna
>>>>>    - or *ಬೋರಲುಪಾಲೆ boralupaale* ... Karnataka Biodiversity Board,
>>>>>    2019. FLORA OF KARNATAKA, A Checklist, Volume – 2: Gymnosperms and
>>>>>    Angiosperms.
>>>>>    
>>>>> <https://kbb.karnataka.gov.in/storage/pdf-files/Flora%20of%20Karnataka/Part%201.pdf>
>>>>>    1 - 1002 (Published by Karnataka Biodiversity Board)
>>>>>
>>>>> *ಬಿಳಿ ಹಲಸು bili halasu*
>>>>>
>>>>>    - Subrahmanya, Prasad K - Exploration and elucidation of
>>>>>    traditional medicinal plants of erstwhile Tulunadu and surrounding 
>>>>> area of
>>>>>    Kerala and Karnataka
>>>>>    
>>>>> <http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/41951/10/10_chapter%204.pdf>
>>>>>    - Shodhganga
>>>>>
>>>>> *ಪಾಲ್ಮನಿ paalmani*
>>>>>
>>>>>    - BIOTIK
>>>>>    <http://www.biotik.org/india/species/l/lophwigh/lophwigh_ka.html>
>>>>>    (Biodiversity Informatics and co-operation in Taxonomy for Interactive
>>>>>    shared Knowledge base)
>>>>>    - Alar - an authoritative Kannada-English dictionary corpus
>>>>>    
>>>>> <https://alar.ink/dictionary/kannada/english/%E0%B2%AA%E0%B2%BE%E0%B2%B2%E0%B3%8D%E0%B2%AE%E0%B2%A8%E0%B2%BF>
>>>>>    created by V. Krishna
>>>>>
>>>>> ~~~~~ KONKANI ~~~~~
>>>>> *बोलपली bolpali*
>>>>>
>>>>>    - Enumeration of plants from Gomantak India
>>>>>    
>>>>> <http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/jspui/bitstream/10603/153789/10/09_chapter%205.pdf>
>>>>>    with a note on botanical excursions to the Castlerock area by V D 
>>>>> Vartak
>>>>>
>>>>> ~~~~~ MALAYALAM ~~~~~
>>>>> *വെമ്പാല vembala, വെണ്‍കടവം venkatavam, വെങ്കൊട്ട venkotta*
>>>>>
>>>>>    - BIOTIK
>>>>>    <http://www.biotik.org/india/species/l/lophwigh/lophwigh_ma.html>
>>>>>    (Biodiversity Informatics and co-operation in Taxonomy for Interactive
>>>>>    shared Knowledge base)
>>>>>
>>>>> ~~~~~ MARATHI ~~~~~
>>>>> *बलफळे balphale, बनाती banati*
>>>>>
>>>>>    - मराठी विश्वकोश <https://vishwakosh.marathi.gov.in/25088/>
>>>>>    - or *बल्पले balpale* ... *Further Flowers of Sahyadri* by
>>>>>    Shrikant Ingalhalikar, the second among the three field guides to 
>>>>> identify
>>>>>    plants of northern Western Ghats of India, based on flowers
>>>>>    - or *बालपाले balpale* ... महाराष्ट्रातील वनस्पतीशास्त्र आणि
>>>>>    वनसंपदा
>>>>>    
>>>>> <https://gazetteers.maharashtra.gov.in/cultural.maharashtra.gov.in/english/gazetteer/Vansampada/index1.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> ~~~~~ NEPALI ~~~~~
>>>>> *बलपले balapale*
>>>>>
>>>>>    - Many thanks to Saroj Kumar Kasaju for help with this name ...
>>>>>    efloraofindia
>>>>>    
>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/JY9dXOAKlSc/m/nC2XHaaWAAAJ>
>>>>>
>>>>> ~~~~~ TAMIL ~~~~~
>>>>> *காருக்கா karukka, வெள்ள பலா vella pala, வெள்ளபோலம் vellapolam,
>>>>> வெண்கடவன் venkatavan, வென்கோட்டா venkotta, வெண்குதம் venkutam*
>>>>>
>>>>>    - BIOTIK
>>>>>    <http://www.biotik.org/india/species/l/lophwigh/lophwigh_ta.html>
>>>>>    (Biodiversity Informatics and co-operation in Taxonomy for Interactive
>>>>>    shared Knowledge base)
>>>>>
>>>>> ~~~~~ TULU ~~~~~
>>>>> *ಬೊಲ್ಪಾಲೆ bolpaale*
>>>>>
>>>>>    - Subrahmanya, Prasad K - Exploration and elucidation of
>>>>>    traditional medicinal plants of erstwhile Tulunadu and surrounding 
>>>>> area of
>>>>>    Kerala and Karnataka
>>>>>    
>>>>> <http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/41951/10/10_chapter%204.pdf>
>>>>>    - Shodhganga
>>>>>
>>>>> ~~~~~ DISTRIBUTION in INDIA ~~~~~
>>>>> ***Arunachal Pradesh, ***Assam, Goa, Karnataka, Kerala, Maharashtra,
>>>>> ***Meghalaya, Sikkim, Tamil Nadu, Uttar Pradesh
>>>>>
>>>>>    - Enumeration of plants from Gomantak India
>>>>>    
>>>>> <http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/jspui/bitstream/10603/153789/10/09_chapter%205.pdf>
>>>>>    with a note on botanical excursions to the Castlerock area by V D 
>>>>> Vartak
>>>>>    - Karnataka Biodiversity Board, 2019. FLORA OF KARNATAKA, A
>>>>>    Checklist, Volume – 2: Gymnosperms and Angiosperms.
>>>>>    
>>>>> <https://kbb.karnataka.gov.in/storage/pdf-files/Flora%20of%20Karnataka/Part%201.pdf>
>>>>>    1 - 1002 (Published by Karnataka Biodiversity Board)
>>>>>    - for *Lophopetalum fimbriatum* Wight ... Botanical Survey of
>>>>>    India - INDIAN WOODS - their identification, properties and uses
>>>>>    
>>>>> <https://bsi.gov.in/uploads/userfiles/file/Rare%20Books/Indian%20Woods%20Vol.%202.pdf>
>>>>>    - VOLUME II
>>>>>    - Hassler, Michael (2004 - 2023): World Plants. Synonymic
>>>>>    Checklist and Distribution of the World Flora.
>>>>>    
>>>>> <https://www.worldplants.de/world-plants-complete-list/complete-plant-list>
>>>>>    Version 16.3; last update Aug. 16th, 2023. Last accessed 24/08/2023.
>>>>>
>>>>> *** no given name / no name found, in the regional language(s) of the
>>>>> state
>>>>> ~~~~~ x ~~~~~
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Names compiled / updated at
>>>>> https://dineshvalke.blogspot.com/2023/08/lophopetalum-wightianum-arn.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards.
>>>>> Dinesh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 1:23 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Names compiled / updated at
>>>>>> https://dineshvalke.blogspot.com/2023/08/lophopetalum-wightianum-arn.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>> Dinesh
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, 30 December 2012 at 19:47:34 UTC+5:30 Ushadi wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dinesh
>>>>>>> what an unusual petal form,
>>>>>>> and color
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> nice close up
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> usha di
>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Satish Phadke <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gorgeous Catch Dinesh Ji
>>>>>>>> I can see the typical structure of Celastraceae flowers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dr Satish Phadke
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Many many thanks Giby ji. Have corrected my notes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Such mistakes may occur in future ! Why ? because this happens
>>>>>>>>> when I have only the Malayalam word available, without the English
>>>>>>>>> transcribed word(s). Then I depend on Google's transliteration to 
>>>>>>>>> fetch the
>>>>>>>>> English (which does not take account of native accent).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Giby ji and dear friends, whenever you come across such errors, do
>>>>>>>>> please point them to me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>>>> Dinesh
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 9:09 PM, Giby Kuriakose <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is Venkotta and not venkeatta
>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/malayalam/venkeatta-venkeatta>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>> Giby
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Usha di
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