The key in BSI Flora of Mah.
1. Flowers usually in terminal corymbose-cymes E.aspera.
1. Flowers in axillary or lateral or terminal lax cymes of
unilateral spikes or racemes:
2. Leaves symmetric, dark brown when dry, cymes
longer than 1/2 the length of lamina
E.indica
2. Leaves asymmetric, pale greenish when dry, cymes
longer than lamina
E. laevis
Ehretia aspera is very common around Pune while E laevis is relatively rare.
My field observation : Generally A. aspera are shrub like. The leaves are
rough as against glabrous in Ehretia laevis
Will wait for further comments.
Dr Phadke
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Balkar Arya <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sir Agree with your observations. As it is being identified as E leavis by
> us/our teachers and none of the flora of haryana by Jain etal as well as
> Kumar reported E obtusifolia from Haryana, so we have not even tried to
> think about other sp. Perhaps a great mistake. one more thing it is very
> common in Karnal Panipat distriact so a how a taxonomist can skip this while
> working on flora of such a small and easily approachable state.
> Thanks for clarifying the situation. However i will try to visit that place
> again to see the situation Again (Tree/shrub)
> Thanks
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Balkar ji
>> There are a few things I find difficult yo ignore.
>>
>> 1. Ehretia laevis is one of the few very early flowering trees in Delhi,
>> starting its flowering towards end of February and flowering season ends
>> around 10th of March. Even fruits are fully mature in June You have
>> photographs well flowering plant 18 June.
>>
>> 2. I have checked my photographs from Delhi, the corolla is clearly with
>> acute tips. Yours has corolla lobes with rounded tips.
>>
>> 3. The leaves of E. laevis are acute to acuminate. Yours new photograph
>> shows obtuse leaves.
>>
>> 4. E. laevis is a tree. You say it is perhaps a shrub.
>>
>> All these suggest your plant to be E. obtusifolia. You may please check.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>> Retired Associate Professor
>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Balkar Arya <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Satish Ji, Gurcharan Ji and HS Ji
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 7:42 PM, H S <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes it is Ehretia laevis,, lovely pic...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Balkar Arya <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sir Pics were taken on 18 june 2011 as printed on pics itself. In those
>>>>> days i was on Flying Squad duty in Colleges of karnal. Although it was not
>>>>> so small we may say it woody shrub or small tree. attaching i more photo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Gurcharan Singh
>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ehretia laevis, I hope you have photographed it in April-May, when it
>>>>>> flowers in Delhi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor
>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Satish Phadke
>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It may be *Ehretia aspera* if it is a shrub rather than a tree. If
>>>>>>> you have more closeup pictures of leaves it will be useful for
>>>>>>> differentiating...(Still it can be *Ehretia laevis* though)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 6:16 AM, Balkar Arya
>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear all
>>>>>>>> *Ehretia laevis*
>>>>>>>> from Karnal By Pass. shot near the boundary of DWR Karnal
>>>>>>>> *Family:* *Boraginaceae*
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dr Balkar Singh
>>>>>>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
>>>>>>>> Arya P G College, Panipat
>>>>>>>> Haryana-132103
>>>>>>>> 09416262964
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr Balkar Singh
>>>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
>>>>> Arya P G College, Panipat
>>>>> Haryana-132103
>>>>> 09416262964
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> - H.S.
>>>>
>>>> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart
>>>> of stone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Dr Balkar Singh
>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
>>> Arya P G College, Panipat
>>> Haryana-132103
>>> 09416262964
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Dr Balkar Singh
> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> Arya P G College, Panipat
> Haryana-132103
> 09416262964
>