Sir Situation not clear till now will be going there again soon to see the
fruits and other characters

On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:

> Kew Plant List treats E. aspera as synonym of E. laevis
>
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Satish Phadke <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> The key in BSI Flora of Mah.
>> 1. Flowers usually in terminal corymbose-cymes
>> E.aspera.
>> 1. Flowers in axillary or lateral or terminal lax cymes of
>>     unilateral spikes or racemes:
>>       2. Leaves symmetric, dark brown when dry, cymes
>>           longer than 1/2 the length of lamina
>> E.indica
>>       2. Leaves asymmetric, pale greenish when dry, cymes
>>           longer than lamina
>>         E. laevis
>> Ehretia aspera is very common around Pune while E laevis is relatively
>> rare.
>> My field observation : Generally A. aspera are shrub like. The leaves are
>> rough as against glabrous in Ehretia laevis
>> Will wait for further comments.
>> Dr Phadke
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Balkar Arya <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Sir Agree with your observations. As it is being identified as E leavis
>>> by us/our teachers and none of the flora of haryana by Jain etal as well as
>>> Kumar reported E obtusifolia from Haryana, so we have not even tried to
>>> think about other sp. Perhaps a great mistake. one more thing it is very
>>> common in Karnal Panipat distriact so a how a taxonomist can skip this while
>>> working on flora of such a small and easily approachable state.
>>> Thanks for clarifying the situation. However i will try to visit that
>>> place again to see the situation Again (Tree/shrub)
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Balkar ji
>>>> There are a few things I find difficult yo ignore.
>>>>
>>>> 1. Ehretia laevis is one of the few very early flowering trees in Delhi,
>>>> starting its flowering towards end of February and flowering season ends
>>>> around 10th of March. Even fruits are fully mature in June You have
>>>> photographs well flowering plant 18  June.
>>>>
>>>> 2. I have checked my photographs from Delhi, the corolla is clearly with
>>>> acute tips. Yours has corolla lobes with rounded tips.
>>>>
>>>> 3. The leaves of E. laevis are acute to acuminate. Yours new photograph
>>>> shows obtuse leaves.
>>>>
>>>> 4. E. laevis is a tree. You say it is perhaps a shrub.
>>>>
>>>> All these suggest your plant to be E. obtusifolia. You may please check.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Balkar Arya <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Satish Ji, Gurcharan Ji and HS Ji
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 7:42 PM, H S <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes it is Ehretia laevis,, lovely pic...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Balkar Arya <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sir Pics were taken on 18 june 2011 as printed on pics itself. In
>>>>>>> those days i was on Flying Squad duty in Colleges of karnal. Although 
>>>>>>> it was
>>>>>>> not so small we may say it woody shrub or small tree. attaching i more 
>>>>>>> photo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ehretia laevis, I hope you have photographed it in April-May, when
>>>>>>>> it flowers in Delhi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>>>>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Satish Phadke <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It may be *Ehretia aspera* if it is a shrub rather than a tree. If
>>>>>>>>> you have more closeup pictures of leaves it will be useful for
>>>>>>>>> differentiating...(Still it can be *Ehretia laevis* though)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 6:16 AM, Balkar Arya <[email protected]
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear all
>>>>>>>>>> *Ehretia laevis*
>>>>>>>>>> from Karnal By Pass. shot  near the boundary of DWR Karnal
>>>>>>>>>> *Family:* *Boraginaceae*
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dr Balkar Singh
>>>>>>>>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
>>>>>>>>>> Arya P G College, Panipat
>>>>>>>>>> Haryana-132103
>>>>>>>>>> 09416262964
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dr Balkar Singh
>>>>>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
>>>>>>> Arya P G College, Panipat
>>>>>>> Haryana-132103
>>>>>>> 09416262964
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>  - H.S.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere
>>>>>> heart of stone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr Balkar Singh
>>>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
>>>>> Arya P G College, Panipat
>>>>> Haryana-132103
>>>>> 09416262964
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Dr Balkar Singh
>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
>>> Arya P G College, Panipat
>>> Haryana-132103
>>> 09416262964
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>


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Regards

Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964

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