Vaah kya baat hai. Maja aa gaya. Thanks. Back to कठिल्लक or कठिल्ल Dinesh ji. It seems that both Sanskrit words tell about some properties because these plants are also known as कठिल्लक or कठिल्ल रक्त पुनर्नवा , गदहपूरना, सांठ and तुलसी
>From other source कारवेल्ल, कारवल्ली are Sanskrit names for Karela. कारवेल्ली is name forकरेली regards Pankaj Oudhia On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote: > Latin doesnt have CH as in Chacha and G as in Jeeta instead it is > pronounced as K as in Kaka and G as in Gadha :P. > So Chacha of LATIN should be pronounced as KAKA which actually means > the same in Hindi.... > Funny.... > Pankaj > > > > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Well said. > > I am tempted to change the pronunciation from char-AN-tee-a TO > kar-AN-tee-a > > !! > > Regards. > > Dinesh > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> By the way, this also means how the pronunciation of the species name > >> should be. Not charantia but karantia :) > >> Same as Orkid for Orchid. > >> Pankaj > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > Yes sir because it was originally described before Linne from Malabar > >> > by Van Rheede. > >> > Pankaj > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > >> > wrote: > >> >> Dear Pankaj, in my mother tongue (Konkani), we call it by name कारंतॅ > >> >> karante (kA-run-tay) or कारतॅ karate (kA-ruh-tay) OR काराते kaaraate > >> >> (kA-rAh-tay) > >> >> When compiled names from various sources, was surprised to have found > >> >> only > >> >> the Konkani name got closest to the epithet charantia. > >> >> > >> >> Regards. > >> >> Dinesh > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected] > > > >> >> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Interesting!!! > >> >>> See when you get down to scientific work you can show wonders!! > >> >>> Pankaj > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Pankaj Oudhia < > [email protected]> > >> >>> wrote: > >> >>> > चरन्ती, करन्ती, चरैन्ती - I am trying my Sanskrit name Database > just > >> >>> > as > >> >>> > wild > >> >>> > guess. Also written to my African friends to search this word in > >> >>> > their > >> >>> > ancient dialects. It is also based on wild guess. > >> >>> > > >> >>> > regards > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Pankaj Oudhia > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Pankaj Kumar > >> >>> > <[email protected]> > >> >>> > wrote: > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Sorry but I couldn't find any reference of this from pre-linnean > >> >>> >> era !! > >> >>> >> Pankaj > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Pankaj Oudhia > >> >>> >> <[email protected]> > >> >>> >> wrote: > >> >>> >> > Charantia is pre linnaeus name. > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > http://www.naturalpedia.com/charantia.html > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > regards > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > Pankaj Oudhia > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Dr Pankaj Kumar > >> >>> >> > <[email protected]> > >> >>> >> > wrote: > >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> Oudhia sir to chha gaye ek dum :P.... > >> >>> >> >> Thanks for the link. Will try to get this article. Since long > I > >> >>> >> >> am > >> >>> >> >> interested in knowing the origin of the species name charantia > >> >>> >> >> but > >> >>> >> >> its > >> >>> >> >> not > >> >>> >> >> in Species Plantarum or anything before it. I have checked > >> >>> >> >> Hortus > >> >>> >> >> Cliffortianus and Flora Zeylanica by Linne. > >> >>> >> >> Pankaj > >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> -- > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > ********************************************************************** > >> >>> >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > >> >>> >> Conservation Officer > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Office: > >> >>> >> Orchid Conservation Section > >> >>> >> Flora Conservation Department > >> >>> >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation > >> >>> >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Residence: > >> >>> >> 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun > >> >>> >> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> email: [email protected] > >> >>> >> [email protected] > >> >>> >> [email protected] > >> >>> >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) > >> >>> >> +852 9436 6251 (mobile) > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> -- > >> >>> > ********************************************************************** > >> >>> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > >> >>> Conservation Officer > >> >>> > >> >>> Office: > >> >>> Orchid Conservation Section > >> >>> Flora Conservation Department > >> >>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation > >> >>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > >> >>> > >> >>> Residence: > >> >>> 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun > >> >>> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > >> >>> > >> >>> email: [email protected] > >> >>> [email protected] > >> >>> [email protected] > >> >>> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) > >> >>> +852 9436 6251 (mobile) > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > ********************************************************************** > >> > "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" > >> > > >> > > >> > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > >> > Conservation Officer > >> > > >> > Office: > >> > Orchid Conservation Section > >> > Flora Conservation Department > >> > Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation > >> > Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > >> > > >> > Residence: > >> > 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun > >> > Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > >> > > >> > email: [email protected] > >> > [email protected] > >> > [email protected] > >> > Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) > >> > +852 9436 6251 (mobile) > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> ********************************************************************** > >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" > >> > >> > >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > >> Conservation Officer > >> > >> Office: > >> Orchid Conservation Section > >> Flora Conservation Department > >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation > >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > >> > >> Residence: > >> 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun > >> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > >> > >> email: [email protected] > >> [email protected] > >> [email protected] > >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) > >> +852 9436 6251 (mobile) > > > > > > > > -- > ********************************************************************** > "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" > > > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > Conservation Officer > > Office: > Orchid Conservation Section > Flora Conservation Department > Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation > Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > > Residence: > 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun > Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > > email: [email protected] > [email protected] > [email protected] > Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) > +852 9436 6251 (mobile) >
