Tanay thank you that explains some confusing papers I had seen in last few years about the id...
but not being a taxonomist I had no way of judging.. thanks Usha di ===== On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Tanay Bose <tanaybos...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Dinesh Ji. > Hydrocotylaceae is considered as a synonym of Araliaceae.Under the current > taxonomic status Hydrocotylaceae has been demoted to a sub-family level > (Hydrocotyloideae) under Araliaceae.I think the Centella asiatica has an > indefinite position hence has been simultaneously placed under the Apiaceae > & Araliaceae. Now there is another problem, when I check the systematic > postion under Wikipeadea, I was stunned to see it has been placed under > Mackinlayaceae according to APG II System of classification. > Mackinlayaceae (formerly Mackinlayoideae) is considered a sub-family under > the order Apiales placed in the Euasterids II clade. Based on the > phylogenetic tree published Tolweb (see the link below) Mackinlayaceae, > Apiaceae, Araliaceae, Pittosporaceae and Myodocarpaceae are indicated by > a polytomy which means the phylogentic relation between the families are > not well resolved, hopefully in future better molecular studies will help > in resolving the problem.I also check with bunch of papers on phylogeny of > Apiaceae where it has been clearly stated that Centella has a variable > position in the tree based on the different approaches used for the tree > construction. I am attching one such papers (see the highlighted lines). > > Tree link from Tolweb: > http://tolweb.org/Public/treeImages/Apiales.png?x=-2144316443 > > Cheers > Tanay > > > > > > On 4 June 2012 09:32, Dr Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Dear Sir >> This is not the plant which is called Brahmi in Hindi or Sanskrit. Brahmi >> is Bacopa. >> Best regards >> Pankaj >> >> >> >> >> On Monday, 4 June 2012 02:20:29 UTC+8, Dinesh Valke wrote: >>> >>> via Species<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species> >>> > C <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species/c> >>> > >>> *Centella asiatica* (L.) Urb. ... (*family*: Apiaceae) >>> [image: Centella asiatica (L.) >>> Urb.]<http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/6935470969/> >>> >>> [image: Flowers of >>> India]<http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Indian%20Pennywort.html> >>> [image: Discussions at >>> efloraofindia]<https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21searchin/indiantreepix/Centella%20asiatica> >>> [image: more views in >>> flickr]<http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Centellaasiatica&m=tags&z=m> >>> [image: more views on Google >>> Earth]<http://api.flickr.com/services/feeds/geo/india/&tags=Centellaasiatica&format=kml_nl> >>> >>> >>> *ken-TEL-uh* -- from Greek *centum* (hundred) referring to profusely >>> branched prostrate herb ... >>> IJRAP<http://www.ijrap.net/admin/php/uploads/436_pdf.pdf> >>> *a-see-AT-ee-kuh* -- of or from Asia... Dave's >>> Botanary<http://davesgarden.com/guides/botanary/> >>> >>> >>> *commonly known as*: >>> coinwort<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/english/coinwort>, >>> Indian >>> pennywort<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/english/indian-pennywort>, >>> Indian water >>> navelwort<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/english/indian-water-navelwort>, >>> pennyweed<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/english/pennyweed>, >>> spadeleaf<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/english/spadeleaf>• >>> *Assamese*: মানিমুনি >>> manimuni<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/assamese/manimuni-manimuni>• >>> *Bengali*: ব্রহ্মমন্ডূকী >>> brahmamanduki<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/bengali/brahmamanduki-brahmamanduki>, >>> থানকুনি >>> thanakuni<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/bengali/thanakuni-thanakuni>• >>> *Dogri*: ब्राह्मी बूटी brahmi >>> booti<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/dogri/brahmi-buti-brahmi-booti>, >>> ghor-sumbi<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/dogri/ghor-sumbi>• >>> *Gujarati*: બ્રાહ્મી >>> brahmi<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/gujarati/brahmi-brahmi>, >>> ખડબ્રાહ્મી >>> khadabrahmi<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/gujarati/khadabrahmi-khadabrahmi>• >>> *Hindi*: बल्लारि >>> ballari<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/hindi/ballari-ballari>, >>> भेकी >>> bheki<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/hindi/bheki-bheki>, >>> ब्रह्ममण्डूकी >>> brahmamanduki<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/hindi/brahmamanduki-brahmamanduki>, >>> ब्राह्मी >>> brahmi<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/hindi/brahmi-brahmi>, >>> खुलखुडी >>> khulakhudi<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/hindi/khulakhudi-khulakhudi>, >>> मण्डूकी >>> manduki<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/hindi/manduki-manduki>• >>> *Kannada*: ಬ್ರಾಹ್ಮಿ ಸೊಪ್ಪು brahmi >>> soppu<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kannada/brahmi-soppu-brahmi-soppu>, >>> ಗದ್ದೆ ಬರಗ gadde >>> baraga<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kannada/gadde-baraga-gadde-baraga>, >>> ಇಲಿಕಿವಿ ಸೊಪ್ಪು ilikivi >>> soppu<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kannada/ilikivi-soppu-ilikivi-soppu>, >>> ಒಂದೆಲಗ >>> ondelaga<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kannada/ondelaga-ondelaga>, >>> ಸರಸ್ವತಿ ಸೊಪ್ಪು Saraswati >>> soppu<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kannada/sarasvati-soppu-saraswati-soppu>, >>> ತಂಬುಳಿ ಗಿಡ tambuli >>> gida<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kannada/tambuli-gida-tambuli-gida>• >>> *Konkani*: एकपानी >>> ekpani<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/konkani/ekapani-ekpani>, >>> ¿ >>> उंदरी<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/konkani/undari-umdri>? >>> umdri<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/konkani/undari-umdri>• >>> *Malayalam*: കുടകം >>> kutakam<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/malayalam/kutakam-kutakam>, >>> കുടഞ്ഞാല് >>> kutannal<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/malayalam/kutannal-kutannal>• >>> *Manipuri*: পেৰূক >>> peruk<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/manipuri/perauka-peruk>• >>> *Marathi*: ब्राह्मी >>> brahmi<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/marathi/brahmi-brahmi>, >>> एकपानी >>> ekpani<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/marathi/ekapani-ekpani>, >>> कारिवणा >>> karivana<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/marathi/karivana-karivana>• >>> *Mizo*: >>> hnah-bial<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/mizo/hnah-bial>, >>> lambak<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/mizo/lambak>• >>> *Nepali*: ब्रह्मबुटि >>> brahmabuti<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/nepali/brahmabuti-brahmabuti>, >>> घोड टाप्रे >>> ghod-tapre<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/nepali/ghoda-tapre-ghod-tapre>• >>> *Oriya*: ମଣ୍ଡୂକପର୍ଣ୍ଣୀ >>> mandukaparnni<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/oriya/mandukaparnni-mandukaparnni>, >>> ମାଣ୍ଡୁକୀ >>> manduki<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/oriya/manduki-manduki>, >>> ମୂଳ ପର୍ଣ୍ଣୀ mula >>> parnni<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/oriya/mula-parnni-mula-parnni>, >>> ସରସ୍ବତୀ >>> Sarasbati<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/oriya/sarasbati-saraswati>, >>> ସୋମ ବଲ୍ଲୀ >>> soma-balli<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/oriya/soma-balli-soma-balli>, >>> ଶ୍ରାବଣୀ >>> srabani<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/oriya/srabani-srabani>• >>> *Sanskrit*: भाण्डि >>> bhandi<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/sanskrit/bhandi-bhandi>, >>> भण्डीरी >>> bhandiri<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/sanskrit/bhandiri-bhandiri>, >>> भेकी >>> bheki<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/sanskrit/bheki-bheki>, >>> मण्डूकपर्णी >>> mandukaparni<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/sanskrit/mandukaparni-mandukaparni>, >>> मण्डूकी >>> manduki<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/sanskrit/manduki-manduki>• >>> *Tamil*: கசப்பி >>> kacappi<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/tamil/kacappi-kacappi>, >>> மதண்டி >>> matanti<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/tamil/matanti-matanti>, >>> பறுணி >>> paruni<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/tamil/paruni-paruni>, >>> பிண்டீரி >>> pintiri<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/tamil/pintiri-pintiri>, >>> வல்லாரை >>> vallarai<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/tamil/vallarai-vallarai>, >>> யோசனவல்லி >>> yocana-valli<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/tamil/yocanavalli-yocana-valli>• >>> *Telugu*: మండూకపర్ణి >>> mandukaparni<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/telugu/mandukaparni-mandukaparni>, >>> సరస్వతీ ఆకు >>> Sarasvati-aku<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/telugu/sarasvati-aku-sarasvati-aku>• >>> *Tibetan*: man du rag pa >>> rni<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/tibetan/man-du-rag-pa-rni>• >>> *Tulu*: ತಿಮರೆ >>> timare<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/tulu/timare-timare> >>> >>> >>> *botanical names*: *Centella asiatica* (L.) Urb. ... *synonyms*: >>> *Hydrocotyle >>> asiatica* L. (basionym) • *Centella hirtella* Nannf. • *Hydrocotyle >>> reniformis* Walter ... and more at The Plants >>> List<http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2708815> >>> >>> >>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >>> ~ ~ >>> Photographed at Lollem, Goa ... 21 FEB 12 >>> ... more views at >>> *flickr*<http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=91314344%40N00&q=Centellaasiatica&m=tags> >>> . >>> >>> >>> Referring to NPGS / >>> GRIN<http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?9831>, >>> a query: has this plant now shifted to Araceae ... also placed in: Apiaceae >>> Hydrocotylaceae ? >>> >>> >>> Regards. >>> Dinesh >>> >> > > > -- > *Tanay Bose* > Research & Teaching Assistant. > Department of Botany. > University of British Columbia . > 6270 University Blvd. > Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) > Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile) > 604-822-2019 (Lab) > 604-822-6089 (Fax) > tanay.b...@botany.ubc.ca <ta...@interchange.ubc.ca> > *Webpages:* > UBC Botany , Berbee Lab <http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html> > UBC Botany, People <http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html> > EfloraofIndia <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> > > > -- Usha di ===========