Many many thanks Giby ji and Pankaj for validating *brahmi* in Sanskrit in context of *Bacopa* vs *Centella* - will amend my notes accordingly. Other plants - *Clerodendrum indicum*, *Enhydra hingcha*, *Ruta graveolens*do have *brahmi* as one of Sanskrit names,
Regards. Dinesh On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Giby Kuriakose <giby.kuriak...@gmail.com>wrote: > Please refer the following links > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacopa_monnieri > > http://books.google.co.in/books?id=463ERB3VeUoC&pg=PA89&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=false > (page 89) > > > Regards > Giby > > > > > On 4 June 2012 23:56, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Many thanks Tanay for clarifying taxonomical status of *Centella*. >> >> >> Pankaj, ... gathering names for *Centella asiatica* and *Bacopa monnieri*was >> interesting as well as confusing in context of their association with >> the name *brahmi*. >> >> >> Have not yet put *brahmi* as Sanskrit name for *Centella asiatica* (syn. >> *Hydrocotyle asiatica*). >> Would have neither put it for *Bacopa monnieri* - WHY ? >> because: >> 1) none of the *Sanskrit dictionaries* that I referred, have mention of >> *Bacopa >> monnieri* OR any of its synonyms - almost leading me to think it is not >> a native of our country. >> 2) on the contrary, *brahmi* is put for several plants - - - >> surprisingly neither *Bacopa* NOR *Centella* NOR their synonyms among >> them. >> >> >> Hoping someone among us provides clarity about *brahmi*. >> >> >> The phrase "In Vedas, one name is for one plant only" is not convincing >> me. There are countless "generic names" in Sanskrit (not sure about Veda) - >> that is - there are names shared (for various reasons) by several plants - >> *brahmi* is one such. Here are contents of *brahmi* page of Sanskrit, >> compiled as of now: >> >> >> via Names in<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names> >> > Sanskrit<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/sanskrit> >> > >> ब्राह्मी brahmi >> *References*: >> >> 1. [image: Bacopa monnieri (L.) >> Wettst.]<http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/2465019988/> >> *Bacopa >> monnieri*<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species/b/bacopa-monnieri>(L.) >> Wettst. >> - ENVIS - >> FRLHT<http://envis.frlht.org/plant_details.php?disp_id=269&parname=0> >> - वनौषधी [ *Vanaushadi* ] by Dr Madhukar Bachulkar - Cholekar >> 2. *Clerodendrum siphonanthus* R.Br. ... synonym of *Clerodendrum >> indicum* (L.) Kuntze >> - Monier-Williams >> Dictionary<http://www.sanskrita.org/wiki/index.php/brAhmI> >> 3. *Enhydra hingcha* >> - Monier-Williams >> Dictionary<http://www.sanskrita.org/wiki/index.php/brAhmI> >> 4. *Ruta graveolens* L. >> - Monier-Williams >> Dictionary<http://www.sanskrita.org/wiki/index.php/brAhmI> >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> That perception is wrong. In Vedas, one name is for one plant only. But >>> it was misinterpreted. For long people believed Centella to be Brahmi but >>> later they found out the mistake. >>> Regards >>> Pankaj >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 2:00 PM, ushadi Micromini < >>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Pankaj >>>> both are brahmi... >>>> recognised by the csir for ayurvedic medicinal purposes... same / >>>> similar effects on vasculature of brain among others and memory .. they >>>> show both on their various brochures they bring to some medical >>>> conferences... I used to have some, if they are still in my library, I'll >>>> scan them and show here... >>>> >>>> In Bengal we call this thankuni pata and the Bacopa monieri as Bhrahmi >>>> saak.. >>>> But in the western Indian states it the other way around... where >>>> Centella asiatica is the brahmi and the other neerbrahmi.... >>>> >>>> take a look at any modern Ayurvedic botany text and you'll see that the >>>> argument continues... >>>> >>>> USha di >>>> === >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Sir >>>>> This is not the plant which is called Brahmi in Hindi or Sanskrit. >>>>> Brahmi is Bacopa. >>>>> Best regards >>>>> Pankaj >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, 4 June 2012 02:20:29 UTC+8, Dinesh Valke wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> via >>>>>> Species<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species> >>>>>> > C<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species/c> >>>>>> > >>>>>> *Centella asiatica* (L.) Urb. ... (*family*: Apiaceae) >>>>>> [image: Centella asiatica (L.) >>>>>> Urb.]<http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/6935470969/> >>>>>> >>>>>> [image: Flowers of >>>>>> India]<http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Indian%20Pennywort.html> >>>>>> [image: Discussions at >>>>>> efloraofindia]<https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21searchin/indiantreepix/Centella%20asiatica> >>>>>> [image: more views in >>>>>> flickr]<http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Centellaasiatica&m=tags&z=m> >>>>>> [image: more views on Google >>>>>> Earth]<http://api.flickr.com/services/feeds/geo/india/&tags=Centellaasiatica&format=kml_nl> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *ken-TEL-uh* -- from Greek *centum* (hundred) referring to profusely >>>>>> branched prostrate herb ... >>>>>> IJRAP<http://www.ijrap.net/admin/php/uploads/436_pdf.pdf> >>>>>> *a-see-AT-ee-kuh* -- of or from Asia... Dave's >>>>>> Botanary<http://davesgarden.com/guides/botanary/> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *commonly known as*: >>>>>> coinwort<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/english/coinwort>, >>>>>> Indian >>>>>> pennywort<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/english/indian-pennywort>, >>>>>> Indian water >>>>>> navelwort<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/english/indian-water-navelwort>, >>>>>> pennyweed<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/english/pennyweed>, >>>>>> spadeleaf<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/english/spadeleaf>• >>>>>> *Assamese*: মানিমুনি >>>>>> manimuni<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/assamese/manimuni-manimuni>• >>>>>> *Bengali*: ব্রহ্মমন্ডূকী >>>>>> brahmamanduki<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/bengali/brahmamanduki-brahmamanduki>, >>>>>> থানকুনি >>>>>> thanakuni<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/bengali/thanakuni-thanakuni>• >>>>>> *Dogri*: ब्राह्मी बूटी brahmi >>>>>> booti<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/dogri/brahmi-buti-brahmi-booti>, >>>>>> ghor-sumbi<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/dogri/ghor-sumbi>• >>>>>> *Gujarati*: બ્રાહ્મી >>>>>> brahmi<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/gujarati/brahmi-brahmi>, >>>>>> ખડબ્રાહ્મી >>>>>> khadabrahmi<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/gujarati/khadabrahmi-khadabrahmi>• >>>>>> *Hindi*: बल्लारि >>>>>> ballari<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/hindi/ballari-ballari>, >>>>>> भेकी >>>>>> bheki<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/hindi/bheki-bheki>, >>>>>> ब्रह्ममण्डूकी >>>>>> brahmamanduki<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/hindi/brahmamanduki-brahmamanduki>, >>>>>> ब्राह्मी >>>>>> brahmi<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/hindi/brahmi-brahmi>, >>>>>> खुलखुडी >>>>>> khulakhudi<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/hindi/khulakhudi-khulakhudi>, >>>>>> मण्डूकी >>>>>> manduki<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/hindi/manduki-manduki>• >>>>>> *Kannada*: ಬ್ರಾಹ್ಮಿ ಸೊಪ್ಪು brahmi >>>>>> soppu<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kannada/brahmi-soppu-brahmi-soppu>, >>>>>> ಗದ್ದೆ ಬರಗ gadde >>>>>> baraga<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kannada/gadde-baraga-gadde-baraga>, >>>>>> ಇಲಿಕಿವಿ ಸೊಪ್ಪು ilikivi >>>>>> soppu<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kannada/ilikivi-soppu-ilikivi-soppu>, >>>>>> ಒಂದೆಲಗ >>>>>> ondelaga<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kannada/ondelaga-ondelaga>, >>>>>> ಸರಸ್ವತಿ ಸೊಪ್ಪು Saraswati >>>>>> soppu<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kannada/sarasvati-soppu-saraswati-soppu>, >>>>>> ತಂಬುಳಿ ಗಿಡ tambuli >>>>>> gida<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kannada/tambuli-gida-tambuli-gida>• >>>>>> *Konkani*: एकपानी >>>>>> ekpani<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/konkani/ekapani-ekpani>, >>>>>> ¿ >>>>>> उंदरी<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/konkani/undari-umdri>? >>>>>> umdri<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/konkani/undari-umdri>• >>>>>> *Malayalam*: കുടകം >>>>>> kutakam<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/malayalam/kutakam-kutakam>, >>>>>> കുടഞ്ഞാല് >>>>>> kutannal<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/malayalam/kutannal-kutannal>• >>>>>> *Manipuri*: পেৰূক >>>>>> peruk<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/manipuri/perauka-peruk>• >>>>>> *Marathi*: ब्राह्मी >>>>>> brahmi<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/marathi/brahmi-brahmi>, >>>>>> एकपानी >>>>>> ekpani<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/marathi/ekapani-ekpani>, >>>>>> कारिवणा >>>>>> karivana<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/marathi/karivana-karivana>• >>>>>> *Mizo*: >>>>>> hnah-bial<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/mizo/hnah-bial>, >>>>>> lambak<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/mizo/lambak>• >>>>>> *Nepali*: ब्रह्मबुटि >>>>>> brahmabuti<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/nepali/brahmabuti-brahmabuti>, >>>>>> घोड टाप्रे >>>>>> ghod-tapre<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/nepali/ghoda-tapre-ghod-tapre>• >>>>>> *Oriya*: ମଣ୍ଡୂକପର୍ଣ୍ଣୀ >>>>>> mandukaparnni<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/oriya/mandukaparnni-mandukaparnni>, >>>>>> ମାଣ୍ଡୁକୀ >>>>>> manduki<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/oriya/manduki-manduki>, >>>>>> ମୂଳ ପର୍ଣ୍ଣୀ mula >>>>>> parnni<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/oriya/mula-parnni-mula-parnni>, >>>>>> ସରସ୍ବତୀ >>>>>> Sarasbati<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/oriya/sarasbati-saraswati>, >>>>>> ସୋମ ବଲ୍ଲୀ >>>>>> soma-balli<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/oriya/soma-balli-soma-balli>, >>>>>> ଶ୍ରାବଣୀ >>>>>> srabani<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/oriya/srabani-srabani>• >>>>>> *Sanskrit*: भाण्डि >>>>>> bhandi<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/sanskrit/bhandi-bhandi>, >>>>>> भण्डीरी >>>>>> bhandiri<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/sanskrit/bhandiri-bhandiri>, >>>>>> भेकी >>>>>> bheki<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/sanskrit/bheki-bheki>, >>>>>> मण्डूकपर्णी >>>>>> mandukaparni<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/sanskrit/mandukaparni-mandukaparni>, >>>>>> मण्डूकी >>>>>> manduki<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/sanskrit/manduki-manduki>• >>>>>> *Tamil*: கசப்பி >>>>>> kacappi<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/tamil/kacappi-kacappi>, >>>>>> மதண்டி >>>>>> matanti<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/tamil/matanti-matanti>, >>>>>> பறுணி >>>>>> paruni<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/tamil/paruni-paruni>, >>>>>> பிண்டீரி >>>>>> pintiri<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/tamil/pintiri-pintiri>, >>>>>> வல்லாரை >>>>>> vallarai<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/tamil/vallarai-vallarai>, >>>>>> யோசனவல்லி >>>>>> yocana-valli<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/tamil/yocanavalli-yocana-valli>• >>>>>> *Telugu*: మండూకపర్ణి >>>>>> mandukaparni<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/telugu/mandukaparni-mandukaparni>, >>>>>> సరస్వతీ ఆకు >>>>>> Sarasvati-aku<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/telugu/sarasvati-aku-sarasvati-aku>• >>>>>> *Tibetan*: man du rag pa >>>>>> rni<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/tibetan/man-du-rag-pa-rni>• >>>>>> *Tulu*: ತಿಮರೆ >>>>>> timare<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/tulu/timare-timare> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *botanical names*: *Centella asiatica* (L.) Urb. ... *synonyms*: >>>>>> *Hydrocotyle >>>>>> asiatica* L. (basionym) • *Centella hirtella* Nannf. • *Hydrocotyle >>>>>> reniformis* Walter ... and more at The Plants >>>>>> List<http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2708815> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >>>>>> ~ ~ ~ >>>>>> Photographed at Lollem, Goa ... 21 FEB 12 >>>>>> ... more views at >>>>>> *flickr*<http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=91314344%40N00&q=Centellaasiatica&m=tags> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Referring to NPGS / >>>>>> GRIN<http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?9831>, >>>>>> a query: has this plant now shifted to Araceae ... also placed in: >>>>>> Apiaceae >>>>>> Hydrocotylaceae ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Usha di >>>> =========== >>>> ====== >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ********************************************************************** >>> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >>> >>> >>> Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D. >>> Conservation Officer >>> >>> Office: >>> Orchid Conservation Section >>> Flora Conservation Department >>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>> >>> Residence: >>> 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >>> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>> >>> email: pku...@kbfg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com; >>> pankajsah...@rediffmail.com >>> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 >>> (mobile). 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