A reply:
"In my opinion it is Pedicularis puctata.
Krishan Lal"
On 29 August 2012 15:48, jmgarg1 <[email protected]> wrote:
> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>
> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>
> “Yes Dinesh ji *most likely Pedicularis punctata* another less likely
> option is P siphonantha” from Balkar ji.
>
>
>
> “Pennell does not record P. siphonantha from Western Himalayas, but Nepal
> Checklist does
>
> P. siphonantha differs from P. punctata (leaf lobes 4-6 pairs) and P.
> hookeriana (leaf lobes 6-12 pairs) in corolla tube being more than 4 times
> as long as calyx. I can't see the calyx in any flower in focus, but *corolla
> tube appears sufficiently long to place it in P. siphonantha, but if
> corolla tube is shorter, closest match should be P. hookeriana.*
>
> --
>
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh”
>
>
>
> “My observations:
>
> Leaf lobes are more towards ( 4 - 6 pairs ). The corolla tube varies from
> short to long.
> Bit of hairy calyx can be observed in this picture ...
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/7832459570/sizes/o/in/photostream/
> Many thanks.
>
> Regards.
>
> Dinesh”
>
>
>
> "We must look at lower leaves, not floral leaves. Pl. see the number of
> lobes in the first photograph.
> You may please compare with P. punctata uploaded by me from Kashmir.
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!searchin/indiantreepix/Pedicularis$20punctata$20Gurcharan/indiantreepix/Ag98ayVboms/AgyGaTfPo3EJ
> You may additionally see a lower (middle) leaf attached here. -- Dr.
> Gurcharan Singh"
> "Yes Gurcharan ji ... I was looking at the leaves that I could see at the
> top !
>
> *Indeed bottom leaf has more such lobes,* but cannot exactly get to a
> figure as it is hidden in most of my photos.
> Regards.
> Dinesh"
>
> "*Frank Smythe records Pedicularis siphonantha from Valley of Flowers in
> 1935*.
> Can't contribute anything else to the discussion right now.
> - Tabish"
>
> "Yes Tabish ji
> Tube length is distinctive, plus it can be compared with my P. punctata
> fromk Gulmarg, Kashmir (link given above).
> -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh"
>
> "But the *West Himalayan counterpart with long tube is P. hookeriana* as
> detailed by Pennell
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh"
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
> Date: 22 August 2012 19:07
> Subject: [efloraofindia:125489] VoF Week :: DV :: 02 AUG 12 - 1126 ::
> Pedicularis ¿ punctata ? at Valley of Flowers
> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>
>
> [image: Valley of
> Flowers]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7795632618%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfiscXcV1ezkljkoVaSBkd-7VO2FQ>
> 2
> AUG 12
> Valley of Flowers ... about 11000 - 12000 ft
> ------------------------------
> Dear friends, ID please.
> *Habitat*: sloping meadow
> *Habit*: small shrub, about 30 - 40 cm high, flower: about 2 - 2.5 cm
> long, 1 - 1.5 cm across
>
>
> [image: Pedicularis ¿ punctata
> ?]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7832453424%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzeW1kpg0zQ0W3Fyv7raohLzML3qEg>
>
> [image: Pedicularis ¿ punctata
> ?]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7832467170%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcUREYNkyzSXqQIi3yeUH9uM9uMtA>
> [image:
> Pedicularis ¿ punctata
> ?]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7832447264%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzc-ZvWDOr5LN2YSoqTArtZpfPqzeg>
> [image:
> Pedicularis ¿ punctata
> ?]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7832459570%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzerFCOk0g0j_UkbyDjS-lSuiUW_rg>
> Regards.
> Dinesh
>
> --
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> With regards,
> J.M.Garg
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