To me there seems to lot of confusion on the net. Some prominent photographs of Abelmoschus manihot subsp. tetraphyllus on the net do not seem to be matching the description in books or efloras.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/41867788@N07/3989376096/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/41867788@N07/3933763097/sizes/z/in/photostream/ To me these may not belong to Abelmoschus looking at the small calyx. Only authentic pectures which bring out the differences between A. esculentus and A. manihot subsp. tetraphyllus and match with the description of latter are on this page of Wikipedia and others http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abelmoschus http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanfari/5056366197/lightbox/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanfari/5088732732/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanfari/5056380833/ -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ I would request Neil ji and Shrikant ji to upload pictures of flower bud and flower with calyx and epicalyx to clear the doubt. On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com>wrote: > I would say second and third are A. esculentus only if this picture of A. > manihot subsp. tetraphyllus is correct > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/41867788@N07/3933763097/sizes/z/in/photostream/ > > > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Samir Mehta <samirmeht...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> See if these images are what you are looking for Gurcharan, ignore the >> labels. >> The fruit image is wild for sure but the images -785 & -787 may be >> cultivated [I have to go back to my archived master images to be sure]. >> >> Regards, >> >> Samir Mehta >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Saturday, October 27, 2012 9:49:57 PM UTC+5:30, Gurcharan Singh wrote: >> >>> I wish we had some photographs with calyx and epicalyx in focus, because >>> the plant is differentiated from cultivated lady's finger (Abelmoschus >>> esculentus in few (less than 6 as against more than 6) and larger broadly >>> ovate epicalyx (5-10 mm broad as against less than 4 mm) and shorter more >>> strongly hispid fruits. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.**com/ <http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/> >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~**singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 12:41 AM, Neil Soares <drneil...@yahoo.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> My apologies. Here is the link : >>>> >>>> >>>> https://groups.google.com/**forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!** >>>> search/Abelmoschus$20manihot$**20subsp.$20tetraphyllus$** >>>> 20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/**tAMLPLIfrcc/8udDTUz_X1MJ<https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!search/Abelmoschus$20manihot$20subsp.$20tetraphyllus$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/tAMLPLIfrcc/8udDTUz_X1MJ> >>>> >>>> With regards, >>>> ** Neil Soares. >>>> >>>> >>>> --- On *Sat, 10/27/12, Neil Soares <drneil...@yahoo.com>* wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Neil Soares <drneil...@yahoo.com> >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:136391] Plz id this wild plant: pa9 - >>>> 26oct2012 >>>> To: "Prashant Ambedkar" <ambedkar...@gmail.com>, "Gurcharan Singh" < >>>> sing...@gmail.com> >>>> Cc: "efloraofindia" <indian...@googlegroups.**com> >>>> >>>> Date: Saturday, October 27, 2012, 1:07 PM >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Prof. Singh, >>>> I also know it as Abelmoschus manihot subsp. tetraphyllus, but >>>> yesterday Mr. Ingalhalikar referred to it as Hibiscus tetraphylla, so I >>>> presumed that is the new name. My previous post and discussion on this are >>>> available at this link : >>>> >>>> https://groups.google.com/**forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!** >>>> search/Abelmoschus$20manihot$**20subsp.$20tetraphyllus$** >>>> 20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/**t<https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!search/Abelmoschus$20manihot$20subsp.$20tetraphyllus$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/t> >>>> >>>> With regards, >>>> Neil Soares. >>>> AMLPLIfrcc/8udDTUz_X1MJ >>>> --- On *Sat, 10/27/12, Gurcharan Singh <sing...@gmail.com>* wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Gurcharan Singh <sing...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:136346] Plz id this wild plant: pa9 - >>>> 26oct2012 >>>> To: "Prashant Ambedkar" <ambedkar...@gmail.com> >>>> Cc: "Neil Soares" <drneil...@yahoo.com>, "efloraofindia" < >>>> indian...@googlegroups.**com> >>>> >>>> Date: Saturday, October 27, 2012, 9:29 AM >>>> >>>> If this plant is Hibiscus tetraphyllus then the correct name should be >>>> Abelmoschus manihot subsp. tetraphyllus as indicated in another thread. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.**com/ <http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/> >>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~**singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Prashant Ambedkar < >>>> ambedkarprash...@gmail.com<http://us.mc1601.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ambedkarprash...@gmail.com> >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks Neil ji for the confirmation. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Neil Soares >>>> <drneilsoa...@yahoo.com<http://us.mc1601.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com> >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> This plant has already featured today. It is the Wild Ladies' Finger >>>> [Hibiscus tetraphylla]. >>>> With regards, >>>> Neil Soares. >>>> >>>> >>>> --- On *Fri, 10/26/12, Prashant Ambedkar >>>> <ambedkarprash...@gmail.com<http://us.mc1601.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ambedkarprash...@gmail.com> >>>> >* wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Prashant Ambedkar >>>> <ambedkarprash...@gmail.com<http://us.mc1601.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ambedkarprash...@gmail.com> >>>> > >>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:136338] Plz id this wild plant: pa9 - 26oct2012 >>>> To: "efloraofindia" >>>> <indiantreepix@googlegroups.**com<http://us.mc1601.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>> > >>>> Date: Friday, October 26, 2012, 11:28 PM >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> This wild flower is clicked from Yeoor area ... the plant is around 7 >>>> foot height. I saw a similar looking flower identified as some Hibiscus >>>> species in a recent post. Plz id this plant if it is possible. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Prashant >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Prashant >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >> >> >> >> > > > > --
