*Gurcharan ji:* I find this following paragraph most intriguing and was wondering what prompted it?
========== *Surajit*... chaliye jao... I am learning a lot of Botany just by reading your threads... thank you Usha di On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:28 PM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Many of us may be experts in our own field, occupying high positions and > treat people accordingly in our institution, but when we are joining such a > forum, where more than ninety percent members may not understand a bit of > botany, but have passion for photography and love for plants, we have to > interact accordingly, keeping dignity of each member in mind. > I may make a very wild guess, knowing well that I am doing this to > keep the thread moving.......but if some one else tells me that you have > made a wild guess.....perhaps not good for the health and progress of the > group. > I have seen phase of both spending days in herbaria around the world > for more than 40 years, and just 5 years behind a DSLR camera and vast > electronic information on the web, and frankly agree, I must have learnt 10 > times more in these five years than I learnt about Flora of India and > outside in last forty years.........All credit to well-knit family of > efloraofindia, who love sharing information. > I think there is no harm in consulting eflora of China, since it > covers most of our Flora, is one of the very recent treatments, and a > thorough one at that.....and more so since both species under consideration > are discussed and keyed. It is also accessible to all. Perhaps Surajit ji > will know the true identity, once it comes to fruit, or even earlier. He is > our one of the most hard working members and needs encouragement. > > My frequent request to members (more so to experts). Just give your > opinion, if you have contradictory views back them up with appropriate > evidence, ........but please don't pass judgement on others........This > will keep the Group healthy and progressing. > > > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:53 AM, surajit koley < > surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Sir, >> >> I apologize for any audacity i have expressed in my earlier mails. >> >> Being only an amateur photographer i only try to compare images with >> those available in the net and take help in this group to know the id of >> plants i see around me. I thought this plant is the same what had been >> recorded in "Bengal Plants" as *Mallotus albus* Muell.-Arg. >> >> I am very sorry for my last email and i understand that photographic >> comparison or Flora of China is not the last word. >> >> Thank you very much. >> >> Regards. >> >> surajit >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Tapas Chakrabarty <tchak...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Dear Sir, >>> I request you to follow the undermentioned steps for satisfactory >>> identification of your photographs which is without any voucher specimen >>> (and you are not satisfied with the identification): >>> First, please try to learn the range of variation of a widespread >>> species. Just forget about the flowering and fruiting time. Do you think >>> that it is a new species as it is differing from Flora of China. Then just >>> publish it. >>> Second, instead of looking at Flora of China, please consult the >>> following publication: The family Euphorbiaceae in India by >>> N.P.Balakrishnan and T. Chakrabarty, published in 2007 by Bishen Singh >>> Mahendra Pal Singh, Dehra Dun. >>> Third, please collect a specimen of your object and preserve it. Next, >>> visit Central National Herbarium, Howrah one day and compare your specimen >>> with the specimens of Mallotus repandus. >>> I hope, you will get the identity of your photographs. Please remember >>> that photographic identification is never authentic. >>> Regards, >>> T. Chakrabarty. >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:05 PM, surajit koley < >>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you very much Sir. >>>> >>>> But, the leaf pictures of *Mallotus repandus* (Willd.) Müll.Arg., >>>> found in the FoC, looks different to me - >>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200012594. >>>> Moreover flowering time also differs, that can also be found in the >>>> description of *Rottlera dicocca* >>>> Roxb.<http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-338096>in the Flora >>>> Indica<http://ia600607.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?id=mobot31753000967882&itemPath=%2F18%2Fitems%2Fmobot31753000967882&server=ia600607.us.archive.org&page=n834_w1150.jpg> >>>> . >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> surajit >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:58 AM, jmgarg1 <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> A reply: >>>>> "I do no remember the particular enquiries on Euphorbiaceae. However >>>>> I am giving the following identifications. >>>>> ......................................... >>>>> Euphorbiaceae: Trevia, Croton and etc. perhaps from West Bengal:* It >>>>> is Mallotus repandus.* >>>>> Happy new year. >>>>> Tapas Chakrabarty." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 29 December 2012 20:59, Giby Kuriakose <giby.kuriak...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It is neither Trewia nor Mallotus tetracoccus. >>>>>> I think this is a straggling species. I think it could be a species >>>>>> of Crotton >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Giby >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 29 December 2012 14:28, jmgarg1 <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> A reply: >>>>>>> "I think I am mistaken, >>>>>>> after detailed studies, I find that the leaves in Trevia are >>>>>>> opposite whereas the leaves here are stated to be alternate. Please >>>>>>> allow >>>>>>> me one or two days for further confirmation. It might be a species of >>>>>>> Mallotus. >>>>>>> Wishing you all a happy and prosperous new year. >>>>>>> TC." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 29 December 2012 13:22, jmgarg1 <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A reply: >>>>>>>> "Yes, >>>>>>>> It is Trevia nudiflora, perhaps var. nudiflora. Fl. Malesiana >>>>>>>> people reduced it to Mallotus. The references are as follows: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Trevia nudiflora* L., Sp. Pl. 1193. 1753; Müll.Arg. in DC., >>>>>>>> Prodr. 15(2): 953. 1866; Hook.f., Fl. Brit. India 423. 1887. *Mallotus >>>>>>>> nudiflorus* (L.) Kulju & Welzen, Blumea 52: 124. 2007." from Tapas >>>>>>>> Chakrabarty ji. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 28 December 2012 21:41, jmgarg1 <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you Sir, this is a tree, found another one, about 20 ft >>>>>>>>> high. >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Surajit Ji. This is a member of Euphorbiaceae (Flowers are yet to >>>>>>>>> open). I think once temperature increase they will start >>>>>>>>> flowering.Please >>>>>>>>> check Trewia? >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> Prasad >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you very much Prasad Ji, >>>>>>>>> This seems to be *Mallotus tetracoccus* (Roxb.) Kurz as in - >>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=109915&flora_id=2and >>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242331439 >>>>>>>>> Attaching new pictures, recorded today. >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> efi site link: >>>>>>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/e/euphorbiaceae/mallotus/mallotus-tetracoccus >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>>> From: surajit koley <surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> Date: 14 December 2012 21:49 >>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:140578] tree or shrub from Hooghly >>>>>>>>> 14/12/12 sk >>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sir, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Found this tree or shrub beside a road in a dense thicket, it was >>>>>>>>> not possible to ascertain if it was a tree or not. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Species : UNKNOWN >>>>>>>>> H & H : tree or shrub, leaves alternate, one or two branches bear >>>>>>>>> spine >>>>>>>>> Date : 14/12/12, 1.30 p.m. >>>>>>>>> Place : Hooghly >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you & Regards, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand >>>>>>>>> species* & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): >>>>>>>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also >>>>>>>>> use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with >>>>>>>>> each image. >>>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: >>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 2015 >>>>>>>>> members & 1,39,500 messages on 30/11/12) or Efloraofindia website: >>>>>>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species >>>>>>>>> database of more than 7500 species). >>>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common >>>>>>>>> Birds of India'. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand >>>>>>>> species* & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): >>>>>>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also >>>>>>>> use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with >>>>>>>> each image. >>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 2015 >>>>>>>> members & 1,39,500 messages on 30/11/12) or Efloraofindia website: >>>>>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species >>>>>>>> database of more than 7500 species). >>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds >>>>>>>> of India'. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand >>>>>>> species* & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): >>>>>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also >>>>>>> use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with >>>>>>> each image. >>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: >>>>>>> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 2015 >>>>>>> members & 1,39,500 messages on 30/11/12) or Efloraofindia website: >>>>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species >>>>>>> database of more than 7500 species). >>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds >>>>>>> of India'. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD >>>>>> Assistant Professor >>>>>> PG and Research Department of Botany >>>>>> Sacred Heart College >>>>>> Thevara >>>>>> Kochi- 682 013 >>>>>> Kerala, India >>>>>> Phone - +914844044436 (office) +919947109987 (Mobile) >>>>>> visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand >>>>> species* & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): >>>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use >>>>> them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image >>>>> . >>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: >>>>> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 2030 >>>>> members & 1,42,000 messages on 31/12/12) or Efloraofindia website: >>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database >>>>> of more than 7500 species). >>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>>>> India'. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > -- > > > > Usha di January 5th 2012 ========== =============== --
