Already, Bergaigne 1884, a favourite of Louis Renou, was written with the expectation that one had Greek and Latin. I see nothing unfortunate about its being in French. Matthew
On Sat, Aug 9, 2025 at 14:09, Jean Michel DELIRE via INDOLOGY <[[email protected]](mailto:On Sat, Aug 9, 2025 at 14:09, Jean Michel DELIRE via INDOLOGY <<a href=)> wrote: > May I suggest the reading of F. Mawet's Grammaire sanskrite à l'usage des > étudiants hellénistes et latinistes, Peeters, Louvain, 2012, which is, > unhappily, in French ? Francine Mawet was my first Sanskrit teacher at the > University of Brussels, before I met Pierre-Sylavin Filliozat in the early > nineties. Her work was mainly a comparatist's one, which explains why she > choose to compare the evolutions of Latin, Greek and Sanskrit languages. > > Best, > > Jean Michel Delire > > Le sam. 9 août 2025 à 12:13, Satyanad Kichenassamy via INDOLOGY < > [email protected]> a écrit : > >> Dear All, >> >> This announcement made me curious about the number of places in India >> where, say, ancient Greek is taught, and how it compares with the number >> of places in each of our respective countries where Sanskrit (or ancient >> Tamil, etc.) is taught. The study of (all) ancient languages is >> threatened everywhere. >> >> A quick search did not lead to an answer, but did yield a few things >> that may be of interest to the list. >> >> Here is an example: "Jawaharlal Nehru University in New Delhi, >> established in 1969, has housed a Greek Chair since 1998." Also, " An >> annual journal entitled Yavanika [...], devoted to research in >> Greco-Indian studies and the exchange of ideas, is produced by the Greek >> Chair, which also publishes academic works and organises lectures, >> workshops and seminars." >> >> https://www.leventisfoundation.org/universities-institutions/greek-chair-jawaharlal-nehru-university-new-delhi >> >> There is also a Indo-Hellenic research centre in New Delhi. >> >> https://elinepa.org/inauguration-of-the-indo-hellenic-research-center-at-new-delhi/ >> >> On how a British Indian student may feel excluded from Greek studies, >> see this paper in the Oxford Student newspaper. >> >> https://www.oxfordstudent.com/2020/07/08/fancy-an-indian-studying-greek-how-i-found-my-place-in-the-classical-tradition-as-a-british-indian/ >> >> For Latin, here is a list of places that have an entrance examination >> for their Latin curriculum: >> >> https://www.shiksha.com/humanities-social-sciences/latin-chp >> >> I would assume Christian seminaries in India also routinely teach Latin >> and, in Kerala, Syriac, see this site: >> >> https://www.oasiscenter.eu/en/why-study-syriac-in-kottayam-india >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Satyanad Kichenassamy >> >> Le 09/08/2025 à 00:57, Raffaele Torella via INDOLOGY a écrit : >>> >>>> Il giorno 8 ago 2025, alle ore 20:37, Antonia Ruppel < >>>> [email protected]> ha scritto: >>>> >>>> Dear Raffaele, >>>> >>>> It is good to hear from someone associated with Vivarium Novum! Do you >>>> know how they are going to make use of the links between Sanskrit, Greek >>>> and Latin for their curricula? I have lots of experience with this and >>>> would be delighted to help. >>> I do not think that the main aim of this initiative is to create “links" >>> between Sanskrit and Latin-Greek, but to promote the study of the classical >>> Western languages in Indian Universities, where it has been almost >>> non-existent until now. Then, Vivarium Novum plans to add the teaching of >>> Sanskrit culture to that of Latin and Greek in the framework of the Campus >>> Mondiale dell’Umanesimo. Your collaboration would be, of course, very >>> welcome. >>>> But I wonder: when they go to India, will they continue the slightly >>>> unusual policies from their Italian site (young men only accepted if, >>>> among other things, they have their hair short, young women either not >>>> accepted at all, or later accepted but only if, unlike their male >>>> counterparts, they do not stay on the grounds of the Accademia)? >>> Let me add some comments to your remarks. About the management of annual >>> scholarship holders, Vivarium Novum is bound to cling to the regulation of >>> the Convitti Nazionali Italiani, which provides for the accommodation of >>> long-term scholarship holders of different sexes in separate buildings. Of >>> course, this old-fashioned custom does not apply to the participants in >>> intensive courses or in the many international conferences they organise. >>> However, in order to overcome this unpleasant limitation they are near to >>> acquisition of the XVIII century Villa Lucidi nearby, meant for >>> accommodation of female long-term scholarship holders. Finally, you said: >>> “when they go to India…”. They will not go to India: Latin and Greek will >>> be taught by young Indian scholars trained in the Academy's courses. I am >>> in touch with one of them, perhaps the most brilliant student of recent >>> years: he is from Nepal and has indeed a very imposing name: Anandavardhan… >>> >>> Cari saluti, >>> Raffaele >>> >>>> All my best, >>>> Antonia >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 at 19:04, Raffaele Torella < >>>> [email protected] <mailto: [email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> Dear Colleagues, >>>>> I should like to draw your attention to the activity of Vivarium Novum >>>>> Academy ( https://www.vivariumnovum.net/en < >>>>> https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.vivariumnovum.net/en&source=gmail-imap&ust=1755283088000000&usg=AOvVaw3SRKsl-VURq20fjNp0R3np>), >>>>> which is probably known to some of you as the venue of the wonderful >>>>> Raniero Gnoli day, held in October 2022 ( >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc-HaEXsVoA&t=524s < >>>>> https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v%3DJc-HaEXsVoA%26t%3D524s&source=gmail-imap&ust=1755283088000000&usg=AOvVaw3iZp1RTjtkzMqoEJniQMdj>). >>>>> In October 2024 it was also the seat of the Biannual Meeting of the >>>>> Italian Association for Sanskrit Studies. >>>>> >>>>> Vivarium Novum, Campus Mondiale dell’Umanesimo, housed in the Borrominian >>>>> Villa Falconieri near Frascati, promotes the study of Latin (including >>>>> Medieval and Renaissance Latin) and Greek (Classical and Homeric) also as >>>>> spoken languages. The President, Prof. Luigi Miraglia, with whom I am in >>>>> close contact, has recently visited Nepal (for the WSC) and India in >>>>> order to create Latin and Greek curricula in the Sanskrit Universities >>>>> (to be extended in the near future to the major Indian Universities). >>>>> >>>>> Warmest wishes, >>>>> Raffaele >>>>> >>>>>> Il giorno 8 ago 2025, alle ore 17:41, Antonia Ruppel via INDOLOGY < >>>>>> [email protected] <mailto: [email protected]>> ha >>>>>> scritto: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Seth Powell already sent out the Yogic Studies course offerings for the >>>>>> autumn, but I wanted to take the liberty to point out a YS course that >>>>>> may be of particular interest to members of this list, Greek-S 101: >>>>>> Ancient Greek for Sanskritists, which I will teach starting September 15. >>>>>> >>>>>> I made a short video describing the course, which you can watch here < >>>>>> https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.google.com/url?q%3Dhttps://youtu.be/XdJrcKwslck?si%253D9KRhtPi1G8-IXSRQ%26source%3Dgmail-imap%26ust%3D1755272552000000%26usg%3DAOvVaw1QVr7wjr5GTpVqlU0ArD2L&source=gmail-imap&ust=1755283088000000&usg=AOvVaw2-qNd_Q79wO9LS5UsG1aVA>; >>>>>> but in a nutshell: if you already know Sanskrit, you have an excellent >>>>>> basis for getting to grips with Ancient Greek. There is an enormous >>>>>> amount of overlap in the forms and their usage, and the main difference >>>>>> between the two languages (the rather more intricate rules of syntax >>>>>> that Greek has) is exactly what we will be discussing in detail. >>>>>> >>>>>> Greek-S 101 covers all Ancient Greek grammar with the help of lots of >>>>>> custom-made resources; in 102, we will read Plato's Apology, and in 103 >>>>>> either Sophocles' Antigone or Euripides' Medea, both with readers I am >>>>>> making for each course. You can find all information on this sequence of >>>>>> courses at https://www.yogicstudies.com/greek-s-101 < >>>>>> https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.google.com/url?q%3Dhttps://www.yogicstudies.com/greek-s-101%26source%3Dgmail-imap%26ust%3D1755272552000000%26usg%3DAOvVaw1NWnxLGlNzzrGUFITTiq2z&source=gmail-imap&ust=1755283088000000&usg=AOvVaw0BzI87hMrDmXU5BzXSVBWf>. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask. >>>>>> >>>>>> All my best, >>>>>> Antonia >>>>>> >>>>>> PS: Our course 'Latin for Sanskritists' just ended two weeks ago; the >>>>>> third term was 12 weeks of reading Seneca's Letters and contrasting >>>>>> Hellenistic philosophies with some of the philosophical approaches that >>>>>> we find in ancient India. >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] <mailto: [email protected]> >>>>>> https://www.google.com/url?q=https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology&source=gmail-imap&ust=1755272552000000&usg=AOvVaw1QtRjTI4rep5I5uL-h0RRI >>>>>> < >>>>>> https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.google.com/url?q%3Dhttps://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology%26source%3Dgmail-imap%26ust%3D1755272552000000%26usg%3DAOvVaw1QtRjTI4rep5I5uL-h0RRI&source=gmail-imap&ust=1755283088000000&usg=AOvVaw3fz1RWVytvi4smqxB46DG5> >>>>> Prof. Raffaele Torella >>>>> Emeritus Professor of Sanskrit >>>>> Sapienza University of Rome >>>>> wwwuniroma1.academia.edu/raffaeletorella < >>>>> https://www.google.com/url?q=http://wwwuniroma1.academia.edu/raffaeletorella&source=gmail-imap&ust=1755283088000000&usg=AOvVaw3K_OKJ53Gy3Ysk8uffozBB> >>>>> >>>>> Fai crescere le giovani ricercatrici e i giovani ricercatori >>>>> con il 5 per mille alla Sapienza >>>>> Scrivi il codice fiscale dell'Università 80209930587 >>>>> Cinque per mille < >>>>> https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.uniroma1.it/it/node/23149&source=gmail-imap&ust=1755283088000000&usg=AOvVaw1CEhjf5IZfH2jc6y70d0JI> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> >> -- >> ********************************************** >> Satyanad KICHENASSAMY >> Professor of Mathematics >> Laboratoire de Mathématiques de Reims (CNRS, UMR9008) >> and GREI (EPHE-Paris and Sorbonne-Université) >> Université de Reims Champagne-Ardenne >> F-51687 Reims Cedex 2 >> France >> Web: https://www.normalesup.org/~kichenassamy >> ********************************************** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology
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