On 11 May 2011, at 15:53, Sanne Grinovero wrote:

> 2011/5/11 Mircea Markus <mircea.mar...@jboss.com>:
>> On 11 May 2011, at 13:29, Sanne Grinovero wrote:
>>> First thing I thought when reading your email was "OMG do we support
>>> on-the-fly hash implementation changes? crazy!"
>>> 
>>> That's obviously not the case, but if you name it as
>>> @ConsistenHashChangeListene that's what I would think.
>> good point :-)
>> ConsistentHashMembershipChange perhaps?
>>> 
>>> Wouldn't it be better to change the exact timing of the viewchange
>>> event? I don't see why Infinispan users might be more interested in
>>> knowing about the topology details according to the transport than
>>> what they are about the actual Infinispan hashing topology - I would
>>> expect that when I receive which notification the new view is already
>>> installed and ready to go; actually I thought that was the case since
>>> ever.
>>> 
>>> What would be the use cases to get the notification *before* the new
>>> hash is installed?
>> @ViewChanged  listener is a CacheManager listener, so it's independent of 
>> the caches in that are in use. It is possible for the CacheManager to wait 
>> for all its distributed caches to install the view first, and only then 
>> dispatch the @ViewChange event,
>> Not sure that's a good idea in the general case, though.
> 
> let's talk about use cases. As an application developer building
> something cool on top of Infinispan, what's the point in receiving an
> event about new nodes being joined, if they're not ready to be used?
> I'd rather have you notify me when new nodes joined and I can actually
> start using them; the rest is low-level detail that an application
> shouldn't worry about - I think - but I'm ready to take it back if you
> find an example for which that's not true.
TBH I can't find a convincing-enough use case to write down :-) 
There is a small semantic (again theory!) difference between @ViewChanged and 
@NodeJoined (which is a really cool replacement-name for 
ConsistentHashMembershipChange btw).
ViewChange happens sooner than NodeJoined. This can be a matter of nanos or 
even seconds (timeout is by default 10 secs)  - depending on how long the state 
transfer takes. 
I'd love to see other opinions around this as well.


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