I still think we can green up the dashboard. We went through this with VTK. They was a lot of griping in the beginning and a lot of excuses, but the community pulled together and did it. That took months, but VTK was in much worse shape. I would hole that of we tag an RC, that we make greening a priority before the final release.
Bill On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Matt McCormick <[email protected]>wrote: > I agree with Hans. There are bugs, but there are *always* bugs, at > least in corner cases for reasonably complex software. And, ITK is > more than reasonably complex. A completely green dashboard does not > mean there are not bugs, either -- it just means the bugs are not > showing up on the dashboard. > > I started a new section of the dashboard called "Expected Nightly > Exotic", and I have moved Nightly builds there for configurations that > are a work in progress in terms of build errors, warnings, and test > failures. The "Expected Nightly" contains the most used > configurations. Builds can be moved from "Expected Nightly Exotic" to > "Expected Nightly" after they become green. > > Thanks, > Matt > > > On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Johnson, Hans J <[email protected]> > wrote: > > As a counter argument: > > > > The bug tracker has over 400 issues of *known* problems, some of which > have > > been there for many years. In my opinion, we need a release that > provides > > ABSOLUTELY NO problems in the core, and explicit acknowledgment that > corner > > case issues are EXPLICITLY going to be addressed in the next release. > > > > There are certainly some red items that need to be addressed, but much of > > the red on the dashboard are compilers and computer environments that we > can > > not replicate. Many of the failures are test timeouts on machines that > we > > do not have control of making faster. Some of the most troublesome > > dashboards are ones that build with Wrapping. In my opinion, wrapping > does > > not have a sufficient user/developer community to justify holding up a > > release. > > > > I would really like to see the dashboard have two nightly expected > sections. > > 1) A part that covers the CORE part of ITK that has development support > and > > covers the 10-15 environments that are "most" used, and 2) community > > contributed parts that have more advanced and specialized builds (i.e. > > wrapping, fftw, GPU, VTK, OpenCV). > > > > Hans > > > > > > ================================================================= > > Hans J. Johnson, Ph.D. > > Assistant Professor, Department of Psychiatry > > > > Mailing Address: > > W274 GH Email: [email protected] > > 200 Hawkins Drive Phone: (319) 353 8587 > > The University of Iowa > > Iowa City, IA 52242 > > > > From: Bill Lorensen <[email protected]> > > Date: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:33 AM > > To: David Cole <[email protected]> > > Cc: ITK <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [Insight-developers] ITK 4.4 release candidate cycles about > to > > begin > > > > +1 > > > > On Wednesday, May 8, 2013, David Cole wrote: > >> > >> All of them... > >> > >> Otherwise, you’re intentionally releasing software that has *known* > >> problems in it. > >> > >> Quality is more important than an exactly on-time schedule. > >> > >> > >> Just one opinion, I’m sure... > >> D > >> > >> > >> From: Matt McCormick > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2013 11:08 PM > >> To: Bill Lorensen > >> Cc: ITK > >> > >> Hi Bill, > >> > >> What are the red issues that need to be resolved? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Matt > >> > >> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Bill Lorensen <[email protected] > > > >> wrote: > >> > I think the dashboard is too red to tag a release candidate. > >> > > >> > > >> > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:52 PM, Matt McCormick > >> > <[email protected]> > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> As a reminder, the ITK 4.4 release candidate cycle is about to begin. > >> >> Please have any remaining ENH: patches that have code reviews and > >> >> clean CDash@Home builds merged by the end of the day, Friday. 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