> On 2/17/07, Jens Elkner <elkner at cs.uni-magdeburg.de>
> wrote:
...
> > most of our clients and even servers do not have
> any fiber channel/NetworkArray attached. So I do not
> wanna install all this stuff.
> 
> Why not? Or, more precisely, what do you hope to gain
> by
> not installing them?

Because I wanna avoid needless downtimes: 
When patches are installed and drivers are patched, usually a reboot is 
suggested/required via patch metadata. Since the internals of a patch like what 
has been done/what influence has it one the system or what impact would it have 
on the system, if one doesn't install it are usually not docuented or at least 
hard to find or hardly understandable for a none-expert
So the usualy option for a solaris user is, 
a) install the patch and reboot or die  OR 
b) don't install the software, you do not need...

...

> It's not necessarily a bug. Sun have a reasonable
> number of products for which
> some/most of these packages are essential in order
> for the system to boot.
> Preventing you from deselecting them in jumpstart (or
> the interactive installer)
> seems an eminently sensible precaution, and as you've
> noticed you can still
> manually remove them if you wish to take the risk.

Yes, and that's ok. However, I guess most Solaris driven machines do not need 
any fiber channel stuff and thus I would categorize those packages as optional. 
E.g. in our env. about 15% of all servers would need FC stuff, only (i.e. ~ 5 
machines). Adding the clients (~ 130)  this would round down to ~ 3% of all 
Solaris driven machines need FC stuff...

> (Personally I think there's a case to be made for
> rolling these drivers into
> the SUNWcs packages so as to eliminate the temptation
> for users to
> shoot themselves in the foot.)

Yes, the "shoot themselves in the foo" is certainly a thig one has to take into 
account, but server/client  downtimes (wrt. to patching/reboot)  as well!

Regards,
jel.
 
 
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