George,

OK, I have now read the relevant parts of
draft-ietf-6man-node-req-bis-08 and it says what needs to be said,
quite well actually.

I do think an explicit pointer to that within the Security
Considerations section of your draft would be good.



Since the int-area meeting today I've had about 10 conversations
about this and one person told me that IPsec is no longer required
in IPv6.  Another person told me it depends on which document you
read.  Everyone else told me that IPv6 requires IPsec (though a few
told me that they expect this requirement will be ignored by most
everyone).

What I believe is true currently is that IPsec is still required,
but that if/when the current security-related text in
draft-ietf-6man-node-req-bis-08 gets published in a standards track
RFC (and we do expect this will happen eventually), then IPsec will
no longer be required in an IPv6 implementation (a SHOULD instead of
a MUST).

And we should spread this news to enlighten the ignorant (like me
earlier today).

                        -Tim Shepard
                         s...@alum.mit.edu
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